Toy completed

[snohman]

it looked like this...42" TSL 's and a Dana 60 front 4.56 Detroit
V-6 Toyota rear with a spool and coil springs with a 4 -link.. :redspotda

[snohman]

then this in one easy maneuver at Fordyce creek..A very slow roll over when
i took a bad angle..oh shit..

[snohman]

not very pretty..

[snohman]

ouch...it still hurts

[snohman]

well...as you can see it pretty much wasted the cab and fender and hood..
I am the original owner since oct 83 and wanted to retain the Toyota truck
look so i decided to find a cab and cut from the floorboard around the back and up to the window posts.I have a friend who has done several Toyota
truck cab repairs and has done some amazing work...you cant' even tell where the cab was cut..the donor truck was a blue 81 toyota

[snohman]

since my old exo did'nt fare too well i decided to go full exo with .120 wall
tubing when the unexpected happens.

[snohman]

it took about 3 months of working on the weekends and about 200 ft of tubing to complete..I painted the interior the same color and sprayed the
headliner area with a bedliner coating.

[snohman]

here's a few pics of the progress

[snohman]

a few more shots

[snohman]

a few more nearing completion

[snohman]

almost done

[snohman]

front almost done

[snohman]

I then decided to change over from gas to propane...fairly easy conversion and much easier than a EFi set up with a computer and wiring issues..

[snohman]

all that wiring is for my auxillary fuse panel for my 6 sets of lights..

[snohman]

I mounted my propane tank in the back...

[snohman]

here's what it looked like when it was done...a little too high for serious rock crawling so i lowered approx 4 inches with some flatter softer leafs up front
and removed the spacer in the coils in the rears

[snohman]

more shots before lowering

[snohman]

lowered and ready to wheel

[snohman]

done...

[snohman]

1 more

[snohman]

I'm very happy with the way it all come out...the truck works great
and is very trailworthy...just point and shoot..Here's one at the Toyota jambo at Johnson Valley

[toy4x4]

do you have a perfect approach? what front springs and tire size? awesome truck. thanks alot

[snohman]

I currently am running 42" TSL swampers and I grooved them for a little
better traction and to soften up the stiff sidewall..I'm running some
All-Pro comp buggy front leafs that are very flexy and seem to work very
well...I relocated my front end forward about 2" to clear the tires and
have a better approach angle.here's a pic with my old 39.5 IROKs...

[snohman]

made it up without spinning a tire... :redspotda

[snohman]

this is at the Rubicon near Loon Lake

[snohman]

here's a approach angle that did'nt work too well..

[85tanker]

wow man, i have to hand it to you, you do things the right way, not like all the hacked together pieces of shit that i see around. truely an awsome job. How is the propane working out, i have been thinking of converting, what is your power like, what was the total cost approximately?

[snohman]

I do like the propane system.it works very well and I have not had any problems with the way it runs.I think the horsepower feels about the same
but have noticed a increase in fuel consumption.It took about 3-4 hours to completely install and was a fairly easy modification.The only negative thing
i would say is that if you run out of fuel your screwed.I will be going to dual tanks soon. :help:total $ about 850.00

[snohman]

twist it up :eek:

[StarWolf]

dude thats a clean ass well built rig, eventualy Ill get there, Im not exacetaly planning on conveerting to propaintho, gotta keep my truck cali smog legal and all.

Gotta say tho man that truck is very awe inspireing. End to end Id say that thing was built with love and care, better then any fab shop could put out im sure.
Way to go man, I hope everyone gets a chance to check out your pics.

Keep on rockin!
-Jase

[snohman]

Thanks for the compliment...I have owned the rig since 83 and have always enjoyed the truck. It is now a trailer queen but has some good miles left in it.

[StarWolf]

I bet, thease things generaly run forever. Wouldnt give up mine for any sum of gold to be honest heh, guess you could say i need her just as much as she needs me :D, got mine from the original owner who pretty much abused it to the fullest extent of the word possible for 23 years. What sold me tho was the fact that it ran and drove like new even still at 140k.
One toy I know I wont outgrow :D

Anywho keep up the good work, and happy trails!

[yamxer438]

nice looking truck. I would like to get my suspention done someday if somebody form this web site (i wont mention who) would send me the springs i already paid for.

[snohman]

Rebuilt 22r motor
propane powered
Downey header
30 lb flywheel
HD Toyota cluthch/pressure plate
Toyota R151f Turbo transmission 260:1 crawl ratio
Marlin Dual ultimate crawler transfer case 4:7 to 1 ...23 spline frt/back
twin stick shifters
Currie extreme duty 35 spline spooled 9" rear end 5:86 R&P
Dana 60 front 5:89 Detroit locker-warn drive flanges-35 spline alloy axle shaft
Welder built steel front 60 knuckles/Bobby Long 300m u-joints
Full hydro steering PSC pump and resovoir
All Pro buggy comp frt leaf springs/Bilstein 9100 14" shocks
4 linked rear triangulated-coil springs 15" BBD shocks
42" TSL swampers on 15x10 Allied beadlocks 2.5" backspace
Warn mx8000 winch front & rear
dula Optima batteries w/65 amp HD Toyota alt.
and more...it's only $.... :bluecryin

[snohman]

behind the front end housing steering

[snohman]

frt steering..all 1 ton Ford tie rod ends and tubing

[StarWolf]

just outta curriosity, where did you find the R151f trans?

[Novacron]

Great rig my friend, looks like that thing would rock crawl like a dream ;)

I have an older pickup very similar to urs, same color and alll, except it's still a stock 4x4.

[snohman]

well...it's been awhile since I last posted up on here...I have really
made some modifications to the Toy and there's no looking back now..
I wanted to lighten up the rear so the rear half of the frame had to go.. :redspotda

[snohman]

I cut the frame about 18" or so behind the cab..I welded the open frame closed and used 1 3/4" .120 wall tubing for the main frame and 1 1/2" .120
wall tubing for the exo and support pieces..wanted to keep the winch in the rear so I used the existing winch plate and welded it in..

[snohman]

with a much smaller and narrower bed I decided to mount the propane into the tool box..

[snohman]

well...you have to love the Toy rear ends but they do have their limits..
I ran a v-6 rear for almost 2 years with 39.5" IROKS and 42"s Swampers
with no breakage ..even with dual t-cases and 4.:56 and a R151f turbo tranny
I was looking for lower gears..I broke a axle and snapped a few teeth off a ring gear so a new rear end was needed...a Currie extreme-duty 9" housing
and 35 spline axle package was the ticket...5:86 R&P,chrome moly axles,disc brakes and a Strange HD housing...bulletproof :redspotda

[snohman]

1350 yoke and all the goodies make for a nearly indestructable rear end :eek:

[snohman]

I needed a super strong rear housing that could take some heat and welding
without warping..the Currie exreme-duty housing uses .250 wall dom tubing
and has a brace welded all the way across.. :grin: here's a pic mounted and painted... :redspotda

[snohman]

9" rear

[snohman]

I use a 10 gallon propane bottle mounted in the tool box.I just had painted the exo and getting it all lookin perty.. :grin:

[snohman]

rear winch mount

[snohman]

just outta curriosity, where did you find the R151f trans?
you can find them if you look hard enough...I found the tranny and t-case together(23 spline)...check the Pirate board ..last time i checked there was 1 or 2 in the classified section.. :redspotda

[snohman]

Great rig my friend, looks like that thing would rock crawl like a dream ;)

I have an older pickup very similar to urs, same color and alll, except it's still a stock 4x4.
yea...you have to like the 260:1 1st gear crawl ratio now with the 5:89 R&P :grin:did you say "stock"...?

[Boost_Junkiee]

nice rig, thats real similiar to what my plans are. What made you keep the 18" after the cab. Did you need that for the mounting of your trailing arms on your 4-link? I was planning on whacking mine right after the cab and boxing that in. Not really keeping much after the cab. I wish I had the $ for DOM but my wallet calls for HREW, hopefully it wont make that much of a difference strength wise. I really dig the way you did your triangulated four-link have you thought about using johhny joints intead of sperical?

[snohman]

I use a johnny joint style on the frame mounted end...you can get a little more flex from a heim type joint with misalignment bushings and a few other tricks..I used 1 1/2".250 dom for the lower links and then sleeved that with a 1 3/4" .120 dom tube...have yet to bend any of the links even though they have plenty of abuse and rock hits...370" wall thickness...those lower arms are HEAVY!!!

[mwmx54]

very well built, and ive been lookin for one of those dang trannies forever! i never saw any on pirate.

[snohman]

very well built, and ive been lookin for one of those dang trannies forever! i never saw any on pirate.
I think there is one on there now... :redspotda

[snohman]

I have always wanted to go to a full hydro steer set up so the Dana 60 in the front was going to have some serious beef added to it...
check out these steel fab 60 knuckles from "welder built"....
grade 8 5/8" bolts ...these things are the shiat..!! :redspotda

[snohman]

why have the baddest knuckles without some unbreakable inner parts..
check these monster 300-m Bobby Long Dana 60 u-joints out...

[snohman]

had to change out the stock Spicer 35 spline outer stubs for some chromo
35 spline stubs..

[snohman]

here's a pic at the "Hammers" at Johnson Valley..

[toy4x4]

sweet truck. how do you like the bbcs shocks.

[snohman]

it's really not too much fun to turn 42" donuts at 3 psi and a Detroit Locker
so the full hydro steer was next...PSC high pressure pump kit and a double
ended ram was needed..

[snohman]

PSC pump

[snohman]

PSC makes a nice kit...most all you need to make your truck turn when you want it to.. :grin:

[snohman]

sweet truck. how do you like the bbcs shocks.
love them...I have the ones made for coil spring set ups...very smooth. :redspotda

[snohman]

here's a pic in action...the truck works sweet..!!
there wasnt a place I could'nt go.. :grin:

[snohman]

few more..

[snohman]

wheelin it.. :redspotda
can you say 5000 rpm's..?

[snohman]

last one...

[snohman]

see ya later... :mad:

[HurleyPJ]

Very nice man, very nice. :redspotda

When you mentioned $850, did you mean that's what the pane set up conversion ran ya?

You also mentioned power being pretty much the same but you've noticed a higher consumption. How much higher??

Reason for my ?'s is I've been wanting to go pane but got laid off and now my rig is my DD. Pane's cheap but not if it gets consumed twice as fast. I was just about to post a Pane'd DD post on pirate when I saw your post. You shared so much of your build that I figured you'd be willing to share pane info first hand. I'll just bypass or postpone the pirate thread. :grin: I know about quite a few trail only conversions but no DD conversions. I know that's not because of a power issue and was wondering if it was due to the incresed consumption not making it worth doing. Or if it's just the PITA of finding a place to fillerup. The big plus for me and the reason I initially considered it is like you said....get rid of the carb and get injection without a computer. :redspotda

[keyice]

nice truck, but those coveralls are flaming :ban:

[snohman]

Very nice man, very nice. :redspotda

When you mentioned $850, did you mean that's what the pane set up conversion ran ya?

You also mentioned power being pretty much the same but you've noticed a higher consumption. How much higher??

Reason for my ?'s is I've been wanting to go pane but got laid off and now my rig is my DD. Pane's cheap but not if it gets consumed twice as fast. I was just about to post a Pane'd DD post on pirate when I saw your post. You shared so much of your build that I figured you'd be willing to share pane info first hand. I'll just bypass or postpone the pirate thread. :grin: I know about quite a few trail only conversions but no DD conversions. I know that's not because of a power issue and was wondering if it was due to the incresed consumption not making it worth doing. Or if it's just the PITA of finding a place to fillerup. The big plus for me and the reason I initially considered it is like you said....get rid of the carb and get injection without a computer. :redspotda
yea..about $850.00 for the propane kit....I usually run a gallon of "pane"
every hour while wheelin...power is about the same but I really dont think
I'd want to run this setup on a DD...it's hard to find a place to fill up for sure and if you run out,your screwed...for a DD ,Id find a used 22re and bite the bullet...but I love the "pane" for serious off road use... :grin:

[snohman]

nice truck, but those coveralls are flaming :ban:

that really does'nt mean much coming from a certified sheep violator... :dunno: your scaring me... :rofl: you might to want to
find a good therapist...

[keyice]

home home on the range looks good?? :devillook and they don't bitch when you spend their hair dressing money on trucks and beer

[snohman]

couple of new pics...truck with 1 1/2" wheel spacers...65"wms

[snohman]

had to take it around the block and try it out

[snohman]

hydro steer :grin:

[snohman]

thses pics suck.. :help:

[snohman]

hydro steer

[snohman]

hydro steer...I used 5 ton freightliner rod ends...these WILL not break :redspotda

[snohman]

hydro steer...limited the bump stop to 2 1/2 inches of up travel

[snohman]

front shot of double ended ram

[snohman]

well..with all the freakin rain here i got bored and took the sawzall to the truck.. :redspotda

[snohman]

cut out the fendrwells and all the other crap in the way

[snohman]

started with the drivers fenderwell and just kept cuttin

[snohman]

removed all the sheetmetal but the radiator support..

[snohman]

a little tube bending and some front add on's and it's back to work.. :eek:

[snohman]

i want to stay with the toy truck look so the fenders and headlights will be going back on.. :frown:

[RamToy]

That looks pretty good.


That rear axle setup is pretty sick.

[WrenchTwister]

wow.
you have done a great job. that propane intake is sweet. so many times i have stalled out on steep inclines thinking, i i had propane this wouldnt be happining.
you must have really good paying job.
what do you do for a living?

[snohman]

Snohman; what front springs/hanger are you using? I've been contemplating going big with Dana 60's and 40's or 42's on my next sas instead of going with toys and 37's. How wide is that front axle? Killer build man!I'm glad you dig the rig..it works very well and I'm happy with the 60 front and Currie rear...I liked the Toy runnin gear but to run any tire over 37",the Toy stuff just won't last.I spent too much money on birf's and axles..I shoulda went 60 along time ago..I'm runnin the Skye drop hanger
in the front along with the All pro comp front leafs..I found a Dodge 60 frt but would reccomend a Chevy unless you can get a deal on a dodge due to cast in spring pad bolts on dodges.I narrowed the front about 6" to a width of 61 1/2" wms...I can run wheel spacers if I need to go wider but like the
front just a few inches wider than a Toy for trails in the sierra's...go 60 and never have to worry again..

[snohman]

wow.
you have done a great job. that propane intake is sweet. so many times i have stalled out on steep inclines thinking, i i had propane this wouldnt be happining.
you must have really good paying job.
what do you do for a living?
Yea...the propane works very well and I get it for free... :redspotda
with the 5:89 r&p and dual cases with a 4.7,I never worry about stalling
on any hill..I do have a great paying job but I prefer to spend all the wife's money on my rig... :spanka:actually,she bought the Toy brand new in oct.83
when we were still dating..I had a 67 Bronco,sold it and married her...

[snohman]

That looks pretty good.


That rear axle setup is pretty sick.

yea...you gotta love it..Currie extreme duty housing,35 spline chrome moly
axles,Strange nodular case w/5:89 spooled and disc brakes and a 1350 yoke to a square driveline.no worries on breaking anything anytime soon..

[shawn0890ss]

that is one of the nicest rigs i have ever seen! if my truck didn't need to be a daily driver i would deffinitly want it to be like that. but just out of curiosity what does the propane setup do? i have heard of putting propane injection in deisles but not much other then that. but i'm only 16 so i miis a lot of things. :rolleyes:

[toy4x4]

allows your motor to run at any angle.

[snohman]

What he said....propane equipped vehicles can run at any angle,the propane will adjust to run at any altitude,engine oil stays very clean,less maintenance
and you can run a higher compression motor without predetonation...I really like my set up..

[shawn0890ss]

ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh i see. that sounds liek an awsome idea for a rock crawler, but i think i'll stick to gas for now.

[toyotamudder90]

just one ? though is that nolffs or impco? just curious ive worked with both and both are very nice setups but i think impco is a lot better

[snohman]

just one ? though is that nolffs or impco? just curious ive worked with both and both are very nice setups but i think impco is a lot better
it's the impco from gotpropane.com..nice kit...easy install...
I would not reccomend the kit for a DD..

[fenderbmxer86]

Damn snohman got your rig on ever site now :grin:

You have a sick rig. hope to see you at the hammers sometime.

[snohman]

Damn snohman got your rig on ever site now :grin:

You have a sick rig. hope to see you at the hammers sometime.

I'll be down at the Toy/Tinbenders Jambo at the hammers in april..stop by and have a cold one...glad you dig the rig...more to come.. :rolleyes:it aint
done yet...
it's getting some more mods next weekend..

[snohman]

Here's a few pics from Johnson valley

[snohman]

this is why I need a exo cage

[snohman]

this is at the top of wrecking ball

[snohman]

fun stuff

[snohman]

a few more shots

[snohman]

a few of the rigs going up the waterfall at the top :help:

[snohman]

top of the falls

[snohman]

all the "boys" at camp

[snohman]

gas bombs in the fire :help:

[yota fan!]

i love your truck! it is a major inspiration to my toy. mine wont be nearly identical but you should be able to tell who inspired it. :redspotda

[shawn0890ss]

yeah thats a perfect example of how nice a first gen can be. :redspotda

[snohman]

Thanks guys..I'm glad you dig the rig..It's fun to drive and am looking forward to a few more mods before it's all said and done..It's going under the knife
this weekend for some more surgery..should be better than ever.. :grin:

[snohman]

well..let the Toy out today for some fresh air....finished cutting the rest of the sheet metal all away..bent up a hoop to mount my radiator to.

[snohman]

ran some tubing down the fender line and 90'd across to the radiator hoop..

[snohman]

now I need to sand and prime all the new tubing..remounted the steering cooler

[snohman]

I started to remove all the unneccesary parts in the engine compartment and cab..took out about 40 lbs of crap

[snohman]

did'nt stop till I removed most of the wiring under and behind the dash...
I need to rewire the whole truck and clean it up...it still runs :redspotda

[snohman]

hope to have the engine compartment completed this week

[BigDaddy]

Killer Front end....love it!!! It looks killer with all the sheet metal gone.

[snohman]

The engine compartment tubing came out sweet and clean..
It's much more functional and looks much better than it did.
started on the interior of the cab with some new wiring and some work to the stereo.. :help:

[fenderbmxer86]

That sky front hanger aint to buff is it? haha

I think we can all agree on more action pics, I never get tired of lookin at your rig.

[snohman]

Actually the Sky's front hanger is pretty tuff... 3/16" wall and has taken more than it's fair share of hard core abuse and hard hits... :dunno:
Here's a few more action shots from my trip up at Bear river back in January.

[snohman]

Bear river

[snohman]

Bear River

[snohman]

Bear River :grin:

[snohman]

Bear river again

[snohman]

Johnson valley-Clawhammer

[fenderbmxer86]

Badass

[snohman]

well...I've been wanting to put another winch back up front..just was'nt sure when and where to put it.. :help:

[snohman]

added some more tubing to the front

[snohman]

bent up a winch mount plate from some 1/4" plate :grin:

[snohman]

pics

[snohman]

a little grinding and sanding should clean it up nicely :grin:

[snohman]

spent the day doing the sanding/painting...here's my new warn MX8000 thats going in..

[snohman]

sat in the winch to see what it's going to look like :redspotda

[snohman]

I sanded and painted the entire front end..looks very clean

[snohman]

pics

[snohman]

cleaned up the entire engine compartment

[snohman]

mounted the winch.. :grin:

[snohman]

I did finally manage to mount the drivers side fender on today..it's starting to look like a truck again..

[snohman]

pic

[snohman]

I'll get the other fender mounted on this week...hope to have the grill and headlights back in as well...i'm thinking of making some type of box to mount the headlights in to..we'll see what happens.. :eek:

[discovery]

That is one sick looking truck Yota's Rule

[snohman]

I'm starting to rewire the interior.I moved my fuse block from the engine compartment to inside under the dash.I'm starting with this panel from the 12 volt guy.8 switch panel,led's,fuse box,inside winch control and push button start.

[yota fan!]

how much did that panel run you? and what is under the plastic on the bottom right of it? :help:

[HurleyPJ]

and what is under the plastic on the bottom right of it? :help:

Fuses would be my guess.


I love how the thread is called "Toy completed" and every other day he's doin' something or adding something new to it.

Definately a sweet ass rig. Props to Snoman!

[yota fan!]

thanks i'm kinda dumb :dunno:

[Ghetto]

Can we get some info on the panel? Where did you get it? What did it cost?

[HurleyPJ]

Can we get some info on the panel? Where did you get it? What did it cost?

panel from the 12 volt guy
http://www.12voltguy.com/

[snohman]

http://www.12voltguy.com/
what he said..i'll post up some pics of it mounted..looks good..

[yota fan!]

:grin: cant wait to see pics mounted!!!

[locktup]

I cut the frame about 18" or so behind the cab..I welded the open frame closed and used 1 3/4" .120 wall tubing for the main frame and 1 1/2" .120
wall tubing for the exo and support pieces..wanted to keep the winch in the rear so I used the existing winch plate and welded it in..

It's kind of funny, because this looks exactly like the truck I built for a dude named Snohman? :grin:



dude thats a clean ass well built rig, eventualy Ill get there, Im not exacetaly planning on conveerting to propaintho, gotta keep my truck cali smog legal and all.

Gotta say tho man that truck is very awe inspireing. End to end Id say that thing was built with love and care, better then any fab shop could put out im sure.
Way to go man, I hope everyone gets a chance to check out your pics.

Keep on rockin!
-Jase


Snohman, you are the man.

[snohman]

It's kind of funny, because this looks exactly like the truck I built for a dude named Snohman? :grin:

:lol: oh...YOU built the truck..?

[locktup]

:lol: oh...YOU built the truck..?

Sorry, my mistake. The similarities are uncanny. :spanka:

[fenderbmxer86]

Did you check out the pics of your rig in this months toyota magazine? They where taken from the All pro jamb.

[snohman]

Did you check out the pics of your rig in this months toyota magazine? They where taken from the All pro jamb.

Yea.thanks.I saw the pics of my rig from the All-Pro Jambo a week or so ago in Crawl magazine and the Toyota owners magazine.....it's nice to see my rig
wheelin in the magazine...I better get out in the garage and keep it going..
the Tin Benders Jambo at the Hammers is in 2 weeks.. :help:

[snohman]

well.the count down is on..I'll be leaving for the Tin Benders Toyota jambo in
10 days...better get off my fat arse and get this POS finished.
Finished mounting the winch and started to put in the headlights and grill
back in..started with a piece of 16 gauge and bent it like an "L" and cut a hole in the back to recess the headlight.

[snohman]

I bought the Roundeyes upgraded Toyota headlights for some additional lighting

[snohman]

high power headlights are no good without some larger wiring.
Roger Brown makes a very nice and simple Toyota headlight wiring upgrade.
it comes with 2 30 amp relays and basically plugs into your existing wiring.
you will need a constant source of power to power up the relays.

[snohman]

just some more cutting and grinding to mount the grill and headlights..
I had to go to smaller lights up front due to the winch controller being where the old lights were..I turned on the headlights and there was a noticeable difference in the amount of light...very nice..

[snohman]

I will be doing alot of nite wheelin at the Hammers jambo..

[snohman]

the Toy looks just like it did before I tubed the engine compartment..almost looks like a stock Toy from the front.. :rofl:a Toyota on roids..

[snohman]

lites up the nite very well...

[snohman]

Fuses would be my guess.


I love how the thread is called "Toy completed" and every other day he's doin' something or adding something new to it.

Definately a sweet ass rig. Props to Snoman!

thanks..I guess it will never really be completed...
I do have 2 big projects in may for the Toy...
should be fun...better get the VISA card out for this one..this one is going to hurt.. :rolleyes:

[snohman]

The Toy is ready for the Tin Benders jambo next week at the Hammers in Johnson Valley..a little greasing and bolt tightening and it's on the trailer...

[fenderbmxer86]

Blingin

[eightyfive]

great work LOCKEDUP you made snohman a very nice truck! :grin:

[Boost_Junkiee]

Ok, we need a pic of the total side view while its on the trailer, and crawlin over shit.

[locktup]

Ok, we need a pic of the total side view while its on the trailer, and crawlin over shit.
http://www.home.surewest.net/locktup4x4/images/lance.JPG

[snohman]

Ok, we need a pic of the total side view while its on the trailer, and crawlin over shit.
A jeep in action..

[fenderbmxer86]

GEt'n it

[Boost_Junkiee]

Was it wet pretty much all day?

[snohman]

Was it wet pretty much all day?
Here in sacto?...no..great sunny day here today.. :redspotda

[snohman]

great work LOCKEDUP you made snohman a very nice truck! :grin:
The guy can bend and weld some tubing for sure...but that's it..
I just can't trust him to do ANYTHING else.. :help:

[Boost_Junkiee]

What is it with you Californian's and burning shit? :lol:

[fenderbmxer86]

We like it to be warm, so when the sun goes down we have to compinsate. :redspotda :devillook

[Wile E. Toyote]

Beautiful ride man, very nice work.

[keyice]

weird thing is californians always talk about saving the enviroment but the people who want to save it will commute 120 miles a day; hey I snohman just got notified might be workin up a beale for so I should be hangin around with 4 runner rick most of the summer, good luck at the hammers maybe next year I go

[Boost_Junkiee]

weird thing is californians always talk about saving the enviroment but the people who want to save it will commute 120 miles a day; hey I snohman just got notified might be workin up a beale for so I should be hangin around with 4 runner rick most of the summer, good luck at the hammers maybe next year I go

wow, you totally lost me

[snohman]

most things seem to look better on fire.. :dunno:

[snohman]

backed the Toy out today for some fresh air and sunshine :grin:

[snohman]

tightened & greased the beast up and took it for a cruise around the block.. :redspotda

[snohman]

removed the winch rope from the rear winch and replaced the steel cable up front

[snohman]

found a nice aluminum fairlead from Tony at Rock Equipment

[snohman]

all set to hit the highway(trailer queen)

[snohman]

Ill load up the camper and trailer and it's time to hit the Hammers :grin:

[snohman]

...just a few more little things to do

[snohman]

I did manage to clean and put the interior back together..from this

[snohman]

to this...got the new dash plate & switches mounted and all wired up :dunno:

[locktup]

What, no stereo? :redspotda

[snohman]

What, no stereo? :redspotda
I took the POS out...I could never hear it anyway :thumbdown

[locktup]

Have to hook you up with the dude who did mine. Thats all I can hear "stereo"

[snohman]

stereo ....smereo,I cant justify spending that kind of coin on some tunes..
I'll put the money into something else.. :eek:

[snohman]

I had to detail the iron cross on my front diff..pretty much ready for some
wheelin.. :eek:

[snohman]

I had a great time down at Johnson Valley...the truck did not..
wheeled it hard for 3 days and it went anywhere I pointed the front tires..
day 4 was some real bad carnage to the rear end and t-case output shaft..
damage asessment tomorrow...will post up some pics.. :bluecryin

[faxmeabeer]

Where the hell ya all get the time/cash for these and breakem??? I need a new line of work....

[fenderbmxer86]

His wife is a baller. :grin:

Where you running toyota casses?

What happend to the rear end? axle, tube, etc?

[snohman]

His wife is a baller. :grin:

Where you running toyota casses?

What happend to the rear end? axle, tube, etc?

I was running Wrecking ball on Saturday and made it about 2/3 of the way up when I decided to take a bad line up against a 8' high rock...needless to say,the rock won.I was running dual Toy 23 spline cases..I broke the output
shaft on the rear case and twisted my square tube driveline at a 22 degree angle.I'm not sure what broke first but the bridge that has the 2 upper control arms for my 4 link ripped about 1/2 way off from the housing.I think the bridge went first and then caused a chain reaction of drivetrain carnage.
I will be reinforcing the bridge on the next rebuild with a few more gussetts and more down tubing from the bridge to the axle.I also exploded the rear Spicer 1350 u-joint into pieces.funny thing is,the stock Toy u-joint at the t-case survived.hard to believe since the .250 reciever hitch tubing twisted.
:bluecryin

[snohman]

after removing the rear driveshaft on the trail I used the winch to compress the suspension.I turned around and drove back down the trail and back to camp under my own power with front wheel drive. :bluecryin

[snohman]

Heres a pic from Sledgehammer the day before.

[fenderbmxer86]

Wow... well thats what 42s will do..

Are you just gonna fix the toy case or upgrade. Wow that is just gnarly

[snohman]

t-case output shaft

[snohman]

better shot of output shaft

[snohman]

more pics

[Kyron]

So you twisted a square drive shaft ?? :eek:

Pictures :redspotda

[snohman]

twisted drievline..1/4" wall reciever tubing..the Toyota u-joint survived..

[fenderbmxer86]

Holy shit :eek:

I could never even bend mine let alone twist.

[snohman]

So you twisted a square drive shaft ?? :eek:

Pictures :redspotda

yea...hard to believe...wasted the spicer 1350 u-joint in the process...
the toyota u-joint survived to be used another day.. :help:
here's my new pinion angle... :frown:

[Kyron]

twisted drievline..1/4" wall reciever tubing..the Toyota u-joint survived..

Does it still "work" .... ya know, slide in and out.......... but now kinda like a cork-screw???

[fenderbmxer86]

Fix it and upgrade to 44s, and really show your rig whos boss. :grin:

[snohman]

well...the truck worked awesome until I took a bad line and F'd it up.. :thumbdown
I'll pull out the trans and t-case this week sometime and asess the damage done.I'll also take a hard look at the Currie 9" rear...it seemed to survive without any problems.I'll check the R&P and the axles as well...you know what they say...shit happens and some times it's bad shit.. :mad:
next time around it will be better and stronger.. :grin:

[snohman]

Fix it and upgrade to 44s, and really show your rig whos boss. :grin:

oh!..you mean like these ?

[fenderbmxer86]

Yup just like those :grin: :grin: :grin:

Are you putting those on your rig or where those the ones you where selling awile back?

[snohman]

yea...18.5x44x15's... :lol:

[fenderbmxer86]

God damn.....

[snohman]

Yup just like those :grin: :grin: :grin:

Are you putting those on your rig or where those the ones you where selling awile back?
yea...those were the big ones i sold a few months back...too freakin big for my Toy...sold them a bought a new set of 42" IROKS...

[snohman]

I'll have to put the tires on hold until i get the drivetrain all back together..
too bad...I just bought a LC Engr. stroker motor...185HP.....
It's sitting in the garage ready to go... :redspotda
anyone wanna see a pic?

[fenderbmxer86]

Was that your first major break in awile?

[snohman]

Was that your first major break in awile?

yea..it was...I've had good luck with parts and always try and buy the best.
I was overdue I guess...I'll continue to build the truck up and see where it ends..It was fun to drive down at the hammers and i'm sure it won't be the last time I brake something... :spanka:

[fenderbmxer86]

Money well spent.

[snohman]

Where the hell ya all get the time/cash for these and breakem??? I need a new line of work....

work less...play more...
it's all about your priorities..... :1shifty:
try finding a rich girlfriend or one that works hard.. :devillook

[Boost_Junkiee]

wow man, I gotta say, at least you have the balls to really bring down the hammer on your rig. :pimpflash and at least we get to see another build up :grin:

[snohman]

wow man, I gotta say, at least you have the balls to really bring down the hammer on your rig. :pimpflash and at least we get to see another build up :grin:

thanks...I do work the Toy hard but thats what it's made for..
It worked extremely well down at the Hammers and i'm looking forward to a summer of wheelin up in the Sierra's..i'm 90 minutes from the Rubicon and
only 60 from Fordyce so i'll have plenty of times to have some more fun..
i'm planning on some more upgrades so we'll see what's next... :grin:
i'll build it up till I run out of cash... :help:

[fenderbmxer86]

What end do you usally start out on the con? The hammers would be alot more fun with a rig like that.

[hoss"87"toy]

:ar15firin Lets see some pics. of that stroker you got there I bet that will help turn those 44's :ar15firin

[bladerunner]

Hey, you out did yourself on this rig, very nice..yoda's rule the wild.

[snohman]

What end do you usally start out on the con? The hammers would be alot more fun with a rig like that.

We usually hit the "Con" at Loon lake but lately it has been so hard to park the trailers and trucks along the road and they are now writing tickets....
I think i'll go thru Wentworth springs like the old days...
here's an old pic of the Toy at the Loon lake entrance..

[snohman]

:ar15firin Lets see some pics. of that stroker you got there I bet that will help turn those 44's :ar15firin

Here's a pic of the motor i just got...
LC Engr. stroker motor...185 HP
it has the SDS fuel mgt system...no distributor....fires off the crankshaft
and only has a small computer to run the whole engine...very simple and
makes a shitload of power...top & bottom :grin:

[snohman]

here's the header that came with the motor....
the motor is used and came out of a comp buggy but only has 10 hours of running time on the engine..should do the trick.. :redspotda

[locktup]

This is before it all went bad. I didn't get any pictures because Snohman was mostly pulling caboose.

http://www.home.surewest.net/locktup/DSC01475.JPG

http://www.home.surewest.net/locktup4x4/images/DSC01418.JPG

http://www.home.surewest.net/locktup4x4/images/DSC01451.JPG

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[snohman]

well...the rebuild starts back up tomorrow...The Toy is going under the knife and being delivered back to Locktup for some much needed R & R...
He'll be reinforcing the back with some 1 3/4" dom tubing and building a new bridge for the upper links on my 4-link.. :help:
the parts started rolling in today...received my new 4340 output shaft from Bobby Long..the fun begins.. :eek:

[RockCrushinToy]

i cant believe you broke that stuff

i thought your rig was bullet proof

but im excited to see you doing more building on it

keep up the good work!

[snohman]

i cant believe you broke that stuff

i thought your rig was bullet proof

but im excited to see you doing more building on it

keep up the good work!

well...I thought my Toy WAS bullet proof but parts do break...the combo of me taking a bad line and a weak point on the 4-link was deadly.The tire had no where to go so something had to give.. :bluecryin ....
todays update:I loaded the toy on the trailer with some 1 3/4" DOM tubing
over to Locktup's for some much needed R & R...He'll be building a new bridge and running a few extra down tubes and gussett's for reinforcing and
extra strength...should have the bridge work done and completed by next week...i'm not sure if i'll run another square driveshaft or not in the rear..
we'll see...i'll update as things fo forward.. :help:
Locktup and I traded Toy's until the work is completed.... :eek:

[snohman]

85 4 Runner...very clean...looks like mine almost..

[RockCrushinToy]

thats a nice lookin 4 runner

does it wheel with your truck??

[snohman]

thats a nice lookin 4 runner

does it wheel with your truck??

yea...Locktup's a good freind of mine...He built my exo cage and all the tube work on my rig..a very clean 85 4runner with some great detail...
it is a very capable off road Toy..check out his build ups..
www.locktup4x4.com

[fenderbmxer86]

What are your plans for driveline?

Have you thought of using a thicker square tubeing?

[snohman]

What are your plans for driveline?

Have you thought of using a thicker square tubeing?

I was using .250 wall and that is about the thickest wall square tube you can
make work...it's not the thickness problem but anything above 30 mph or so and the driveline is out of balance/wobbles very badly..but they R cheap, nearly indestructable and easy to build..... :help:

[fenderbmxer86]

There is a drive line shop in Sac that makes custom thickness, but im not to sure how thick they go.

[locktup]

Stick to square. The way you drive people think your driving Ms. Daisy anyhow. Not only did he twist the square shaft, the weld between the shaft and the flange broke. He was so wedged it took a 9000 pound winch to pull him out from under that rock. At first it didn't budge, but it finally broke loose.

[snohman]

I checked out my broken driveshaft and I have a few parts that can be salvaged..I already have bunch of new 1350 Spicer u-joints laying around and can reuse the 1350 yoke on the end...a little tube and i'm back in business.. :redspotda

[fenderbmxer86]

I dont know if you answered this yet but.....

What front springs do you have?
What rear coils?
Have you thought about going to coil overs?
What about linking the front?

[snohman]

I dont know if you answered this yet but.....

What front springs do you have?
What rear coils?
Have you thought about going to coil overs?
What about linking the front?

I'm currently running All-pro comp buggy springs in the frt(3" lift)but they seem to be bent a little..so something is going to change
running Rock Equipment coils in the rear...17" overall length....very soft
I did have a set of coil overs but traded for the hyro steering and never looked back...coil overs are expensive and require some tuning and time..
I'm not sure how much more travel I can get from my Toy with coil overs..
I've been collecting some parts and pieces for a 4-link front for a while..we'll see what happens...I've got alot of other projects to complete first
engine swap,transfer case rebuild,fuel system change over,and possibly rebuilding the trans to run that 185 HP motor...in between work,the kids and the wife....... :bluecryin ..never enough time...

[fenderbmxer86]

Haha yeah i know how the family thing is. I just had a little boy about a month ago.

Im planning on linking my rear pretty soon. Would you suggest those coils? or differant ones?

coilovers in the front are nice for jumping and going fast over rocks.

[snohman]

Haha yeah i know how the family thing is. I just had a little boy about a month ago.

Im planning on linking my rear pretty soon. Would you suggest those coils? or differant ones?

coilovers in the front are nice for jumping and going fast over rocks.

you can use almost any type of coil you can find.I would use something with a soft spring rate for the rear..jeep tj's,yj's all have coils and you can find them used on e-bay or most wrecking yards.you'll just have to set up the rear according to the compressed height on your coils....ford aerostar van coils are also cheap and easy to find...I like to use new coils and the ones from Tony at Rock Equipment work great...he can sell you all the links,tabs,tube adaters and all the acc's you'll need...great guy and has alot of useful info.....if you plan on a daily driver with coils it's not a good thing...off road only or stick to leafs...just my 2 cents worth..

[RockCrushinToy]

i know this is a little late to ask but...

how long did you run your toy rear end before you changed to your currie 9"??

how big of tires did you run on it, cuz i want to run about a 40" tires on my rig that will have a 60 front and toy rear

what do you think dude?

[snohman]

i know this is a little late to ask but...

how long did you run your toy rear end before you changed to your currie 9"??

how big of tires did you run on it, cuz i want to run about a 40" tires on my rig that will have a 60 front and toy rear

what do you think dude?

I ran a V-6 toy rear for almost 2 years with some big tires. 1st year with a set of 39.5" IROKS and 2nd year a set of 42"'s TSL's before I started breaking stuff...broke 1 axle,a
detroit locker and a chunk off a ring gear over the 2 year period.....just lay off the skinny pedal
and you'll have it last for quite some time depending on how hard you wheel your rig....I'd use a 4:10,4:56 or 4:88 R&P... anything lower and I think with 40"s your going to find the weak link:bluecryin

[snohman]

Stick to square. The way you drive people think your driving Ms. Daisy anyhow. Not only did he twist the square shaft, the weld between the shaft and the flange broke. He was so wedged it took a 9000 pound winch to pull him out from under that rock. At first it didn't budge, but it finally broke loose.

I will stick to square no doubt....
I drive like Ms.Daisy cause you guys up front keep getting stuck and hung up in every rock hole in the trail.get rid of those puny little tires and quit taking an hour on every obstacle. :help: I could crawl on my hands and knees and still beat you up the trail.......from my view in back it looked like you driving Mr. Daisy in your front seat.. :rofl:

[RockCrushinToy]

ya i think ill keep my 4.88s then

do you have lower gears in your second case or just duals with 2.28:1