what do yall think is the best locker?

[tonkatoy]

which one out of all lockers is the best for the front and rear of an 85 4runner sr5. iam positive yall will have some intresting responses. thanks nick

[Rockcrawlintoy]

a front selectable and a spool for trail only for a daily driver selecable front a nd rear

DRew

[bbagwell]

Just depends on how much you have to spend.

[toy4x4]

i'm going with a front detroit and a rear spool when i get some more $$$.

[WildYoats]

DETROIT. Nuff said. I had a spool in the rear once, I hated it. Just my opionion though.

[mx924]

for the front my choice is the fj-80 HP e-locker. the gears are reverse cut instead of running on the coast side of the gears they run on the drive side.

[westsidecarwler]

arb locker

[mallkrawler]

yep you can never go wrong with the factory E-locker. You can buy the complete thirds from Toyota with different gear choices for under 900.

[WildYoats]

arb locker

LOL, welcome to Wild Yoats man. ROFFL Um, did you mean to spell crawler like that or would you like me to change and correct it for you? ROFFL

[KToy]

well if i had that 4runner PERSONALY i feel that a welded rear end is basicaly free and it works just as well as a spool and is basicaly as strong if welded right.



i have a detroit rear and arb front. if u go offroad only and have hydro steer. weld/detroit.

if its a dd. then weld the rear and arb the front.


i would weld a dd no matter what if i did weekend offroading.

its just so easy and strong. its like toyota made there 3rd's to be welded.

[hammerhead]

...welded rear end is basicaly free and it works just as well as a spool and is basicaly as strong if welded right.Actually a welded rear is stronger than a spool because a spool can deflect where a welded diff does not.

I say weld the rear and put the best you can afford in the front.

[Bloomcounty]

yeah my last rig was welded in the rear and I loved it ! , not to mention it was free . I was to scared to do the front , I wanted to be able to turn it ! :Rockonman

[TrucksChixnbeer]

Weld teh rear lock right the front

[ToyRunner1]

I love the Detroit rear and ARB front in my 85 SR5 4Runner. I don't know if I'd stay with the rear Detroit if it was still a DD though. The tires are too expensive as it is, and the locker accelerates the wear. I'd go selectables for both ends if that was the case.

[tonkatoy]

well thanks. iam looking at Detroit and ARB, dont want a air locker, welding ( so u guys say is real good then, yes) i will try that. the tires that i am going to put on it is 33/13.50/15 Boggers and sitting on rock crawler black rims or get 34/13.50/15 LTB's in a package from FOUR WHEEL PARTS. sence some lockers eat tires i will get the back welded and detroit or arb in front. will these tire sizes work with my truck with only a 3" body lift on it. will i have to worry about rubbing when turning and climbing on stuff. if so should i cut fenders. it will be a dd and weekend worrier. it still dosent run but starts then putters out the fuel pump is running and every thing is hooked up. sorry about the long response but i just want it to get runnin thanks nick :)

[TrucksChixnbeer]

well thanks. iam looking at Detroit and ARB, dont want a air locker, welding ( so u guys say is real good then, yes) i will try that. the tires that i am going to put on it is 33/13.50/15 Boggers and sitting on rock crawler black rims or get 34/13.50/15 LTB's in a package from FOUR WHEEL PARTS. sence some lockers eat tires i will get the back welded and detroit or arb in front. will these tire sizes work with my truck with only a 3" body lift on it. will i have to worry about rubbing when turning and climbing on stuff. if so should i cut fenders. it will be a dd and weekend worrier. it still dosent run but starts then putters out the fuel pump is running and every thing is hooked up. sorry about the long response but i just want it to get runnin thanks nick :)


The ARB is a Air locker. and the 33's will probally fit with slight fender triming... the 34's are pushin it.

[fergusor]

I dont like detroits for toyotas. If you break a axle say good bye to the detroit. Ive seen more detroits break than any other locker. Ive also had it happen to me. Ive ran welded in my comp buggy and never had a problem other than breaking everything else.

[Rescue]

Actually a welded rear is stronger than a spool because a spool can deflect where a welded diff does not.

I say weld the rear and put the best you can afford in the front.

In my opinion a welded rear rear sucks big time, I`ve had 2 and they broke within 6 months.

I now run a spool in the rear of my dd.

ARB would be my choice in the front...

[TrucksChixnbeer]

If the welded rear is breaking then your welds suck :) hehe jk

I have had a few welded rears and never had 1 break, and my brother has a heep with a 400 hp 401 in it with a yota rear end and he breaks the gears all the time but the welds never break.

Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks

[jprunner]

I'M QUITE PARTIAL TO TOYOTA ELECTRIC LOCKERS I'VE HAD MINE FOR ALMOST 3 YEARS AND THEY HAVE'NT GIVEN ME ANY PROBLEMS. KEEP IT TOYOTA AND YOU KNOW IT WILL BE DEPENABLE.
THEY MAY COST A LITTLE MORE, BUT WELL WORTH IT.

HAVE A GOOD ONE! --JPRUNNER-- :Thumbsup:

[tonkatoy]

i take it back the welding on a dd is not good. what is the best Detroit locker for front and back i am willing to pay the money. would like to have a locker on a pull cable but what ever works, but still need help with the engine :Help:

[tonkatoy]

i'm going with a front detroit and a rear spool when i get some more $$$. i just noticed that you are a couple of months older than me born in 11/21/88 :Rockonman

[toy4x4]

are u as broke as i am? it's hard when you're 16 isn't it lol.. i wanna get a damn job at an auto parts store but they don't want to hire someone without "expierence" even though half the dumbasses there couldn't change their own oil. guess mechanical expierence isn't the expierence they are looking for.. lol oh well good luck with your truck

[tonkatoy]

heck i still have my learners (big family and no money contributed) and i cant get a job and its good seeing another 16 year old in this place and the auto parts store is gay you can ask them for the stupidest stuff and they will look and look for it. iam good with engine and body repair so i could work for a local business but hey i cant drive lol life sucks some times :No pity:

[KToy]

k we have about 4 welded rear ends between me and my friends. and they havent broke yet. we got wheeling quite often. i drove my truck to moab a few times with a welded rear end.

if i was 16 and had no money and i drove that truck to skool u bet ur @SS i would weld it. and i would chirp the tires int eh parking lot in 3rd gear.


i would say " bet ya 10 bux my truck can chirp the tires in 2nd gear.

bully says " bet ya cant"

so then u go and make a circle in ur truck in 2nd gear and then u get 10 bux WOOYA.

anyways i would weld weld weld weld weld weld weld weld weld. ohh ya my advice WELD THE REAR END.

just make sure u do it right.

dont crack ur carrier and dont underweld.

weld opposite corners and then let cool for about 30 45 minutes then do the other 2 corners. then when u got each corner welded.

do it 2 more times on top of those welds. basicaly 3 beads in each corner.


keep it cool from cracking and install and ur done.

[tonkatoy]

well doesnt welding the rear eat tires?

[TrucksChixnbeer]

Only eats your tires if your stupid about it. Dont always stomp on it when u turn corners unless u wanna buy new tires all the time, Yes they will were a little bit faster then normal but not insainly fast

[KToy]

well if its a huge deal then i guess get a selectable locker.

700-800 for a arb locker. around 200-300 for install. 200-250 arb compressor, and 100 for a master install kit.

so i figure to get a real locker ur looking at minimum (if u install the locker and compressor)

800 bux.

so to me welding saves u this amount of money and its worth it to me to go through tires a bit quicker.

then a trd locker elocker or whatever ppl are calling them are about 900 bux i hear.

iv heard of ppl getting them for 500 but then u got to shave ur housing to make them fit. thats a trd tacoma locker or a landcruiser elocker i think.

good luck on the lockers. and good luck on saving ur tires.

good luck on install of the arb. good luck in general cuz it sounds like ur gonna need it.

[Bloomcounty]

Man my opinon is weld the dang thang ! At sixteen no tires last very long ! or at least for me they diddn't ! any way I think you'll save tires , instead of one wheel spinin everytime you take of you can have both spinnin and you won't spin as much ! just my 2 cents :yes:

[toy4x4]

not 2 hijack you're thread but it kinda goes together.. would you recommend welding front temporarily until you can get a detroit. thanks

oh and ttrcrawler, i gotta give that a try lol.

[bbagwell]

I agree just weld the rear end. It basically free, and the money you save buy not buying an ARB you can spend on tires. Working in an Auto parts store is not all it is cracked up to be. I did it for a while and thought it was going to be really cool. Some customers were cool and then there was the huge A-holes. Most of the guys behind the counter are morons, trust me I worked with them. Most of the customers were even bigger morons, made for fun times!

[tonkatoy]

after sleeping on it i will weld the rear and Detroit the front cause i dont want to deal with the air compressor and the lines it would be cool but i want something alittle simpler. :beer:

[mallkrawler]

What about the Aussie locker for the front. Never had a Detroit.(welded front/rear with hydro assist) But, I hear that they aren't very streert friendly in the front.

[tonkatoy]

i dont think its very good to weld the front on a dd but it would work and Aussie never heard about them, i will look

[stomper]

Where is guyton Ga at?

I ran Lockrights in my Tacoma For a long time and they never let me down.

[suv]

The best combo in my opinion for a dd/trail rig is an automatic in the front (detroit/lockrite), and an e-locker in the rear. With this setup, it's totally open for street driving, and I just leave the rear locked whenever I'm wheeling. I run most of the trail in 2wd low and I can steer easily without the front plowing. When I come to a nasty spot, I put it in 4 low or double low, and negotiate the obstacle. I wouldn't set up my diffs any other way for a rig used on and off road. If it was a trail only rig, I would probably just weld the rear and use an automatic in the front. I've driven several rigs that were spooled up front, and what a pain to turn. Even with hydro assist, the steering wheel moves but the truck just plows. Having a selectable up front, you would be always locking and unlocking each time you came to an obstacle.

[tonkatoy]

Where is guyton Ga at?

I ran Lockrights in my Tacoma For a long time and they never let me down.
its above Savannah just by a couple of miles ;)

[snowtoy83]

Ya, Just weld it. I'm 16 to and welded my rear cuz I figured I'd go through tires just as fast if it was open and it was free.

[seth]

I agree with SUV, put a E-locker in the rear. You can get one from a junk yard for 400, and if you want, you can get it with 4.56 gears. Plus, you get the added strength of a V6 third. Then throw whatever you want up front other than a spool/weld. You drive around on the road with the ffront hubs unlocked, so as long as it works offroad, you'll be fine.

[tonkatoy]

when i get the money to do it i will e-lock the front and weld the back but it wont happen any time now the runner isnt even running but owell :)