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Jared
07-24-2004, 12:05 AM
I just payed 400$ bucks for driving school to get my permit(im only 16) and i started to put my waggy springs on the front of my truck and i realized that the drag link hits the ubolt on the leaf spring. I borrowed my friends drop drag link and it still hits. My only solution is to go crossover. well since i just shot 400Dollars to driving school im kinda broke. Im trading my lincoln buzzbox for a ifs yota steering box and some metal. I was wondering, DOes the Double arm type crossover that all pro sells worth it? Or should i just wait a month and a half and save up some money and just by the 400 dollar kit that marlin sells?

Cody
07-24-2004, 09:40 PM
Save for the High Steer. If you opt for the Y arm, you'll regret it.

Jared
07-25-2004, 01:23 AM
The thing is i need to get my truck running by next weekend. and the only choice i have is to weld a double arm which i dont want to do and/or purchase the double arm from allpro.

86runner-sas
07-25-2004, 11:45 AM
borrow some money from the parents:Thumbsup:

toy_jon
07-25-2004, 05:32 PM
beg, borrow and steal that money for the high steer kit, it works great and you will regret spending money on anything else. its just a big waste of time.

GET THE HIGH STEER KIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
jon
:beer:

hammerhead
07-25-2004, 09:29 PM
I ran a Y type double arm for a while and did NOT like it. Now I run crossover high steer with the tie-rod above and behind the axle. It is awesome. Improved turning radius, great clearance and no more bent tie-rods. Talk to Luke at www.4x4Labs.com .

fourwd1
07-26-2004, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Jared
The thing is i need to get my truck running by next weekend. and the only choice i have is to weld a double arm which i dont want to do and/or purchase the double arm from allpro.

You DO NOT want to weld up your own steering arms, it is way to dangerous to booty-fab steering. The welds will fail and always at a bad time. Beg, borrow, or steal the $$ to get a kit from AllPro,Sky, etc. and do it right the first time.

JWalker
07-26-2004, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by hammerhead
Now I run crossover high steer with the tie-rod above and behind the axle. It is awesome. Improved turning radius, great clearance and no more bent tie-rods. Talk to Luke at www.4x4Labs.com .

What vehicle and what motor do ya have and how much lift ? any issues w/tie rod hitting the oil pan ???

ZUK
07-26-2004, 11:11 AM
Jared----poor man's cross-over.......I've done it in the past.....a couple of times....so I know what it takes and some of the issues.
For example, just flipping a spare steering arm and and welding it around the rectangular base and then just using 4 longer metric bolts is not the best way......seems the bolts were forever loosening up.
So the last one I did for a bud, we still flipped the spare steering arm like in the past but I chopsawed off the rectangular base such that the original 4 bolts and the cone washers were still effective. The steering arms are cast steel so they seem to MIG weld nicely. I welded the SA on all around the chopsaw cut....then I cut some tri-angle braces and welded them both in place between the 2 arms effectively boxing it. Then let it air cool. If the welds actually 'flow' then all is good. You don't want to move too fast on cast steel.....turn the wire feed down some and go in slow motion....let the heat stay ahead of the puddle....to not do so can cause some 'sputtering' bubbling.
Now, of course, if you don't have the right tools, in this case a MIG and some basic cutting tools, then you should resign yourself to getting the wallet raped.
It's so satisfying, speaking from my years of fabbing, to visualize the part I need to make something work and cut/weld it up myself. A sense of personal satisfaction. Well, all except for the Budbuilt cross-member...I can't fab nothing quite as cool as that so I bought one.:beer:

EDIT----Now after reading your post some more,,,,seeing that you would rather not weld or spend big bucks on a Hi-steer, seems like you're looking at the Y arm. If you're not gonna tackle the 3 foot boulders then that would seem just fine. Being a college kid, I would expect you're not entering your DD in some ARCA event so Hi-steer would not probably be in your best interest. You might even have KC lights on it, uh?;)

GJC
07-27-2004, 09:35 AM
A local fabricator made Me the stock Y for crossover steering. He has been making these for years with great success. He has two or three still in stock, shoot Me a pm if interested ;)

Jared
07-28-2004, 12:28 AM
actually zuk im only 16. do you think you could make me a double arm since you are in sacramento? I might need a gear install soon also. But maybe after the crossover. thanks alot guys for the input.