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toyguy
03-03-2004, 07:06 PM
I need to make a long travel front on a budget, i really want to do just to do a square driveshaft. do you zerk them so you can add grease. Anybody got any pics, how bad do they vibrate. I am very poor so any help would be great. also specifics as far as what channel works the best, 2-1/4 and 2" ? thank you

toyguy

robrocketanski
03-03-2004, 08:17 PM
i have been meaning to do this for a while myself. i am going to to do it next week, honest :Angel: it might wait a couple weeks though.

i have looked into the square shaft. i got responses both ways- "it vibes at 5 mph" and "mine is good to 60 mph"

i am going to try and make one out of some tractor parts. tractor supply company has plines and joints to make shafts for equipment. i am going to try and make a spline slip out of their struff for $50 or so and use the stock cv.

if you want to make a square shaft you should use seamless "receiver tube"

and if yotarunner sees this, he has some great pics he sent me of his square shaft.

FatAzzRunner
03-04-2004, 12:05 AM
Toyguy,

here is a good link.

Within the link are some good links on Pirate that explain it all. I have been very happy with my front one and am getting ready to do a back one as well for the trails.




http://www.wildyoats.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2556&highlight=square+driveshaft

Rockcrawlintoy
03-04-2004, 03:04 PM
i made my own front d line with some raw spline from hign angle d line and the coupler. damn near the same thing as jess makes but cheaper. rob do u have dual cases?

Drew

Rescue
03-04-2004, 03:33 PM
I made one.... I only have to shim the inside tube for a tight fit, pictures next week!

YotaRunner
03-07-2004, 12:00 PM
For the best fit get the seemless reciver tube for the top(tcase/CV end) and fit some normal stock for the bottom pinion end.

I Don't greese mine at all just the CV at times if I have the gun out... but not often... It works fine up to about 25-30mph, It would probably be ok going faster, but I don't want to run the risk of mangling the tcase.

I just buchered up an IFS shaft for the project.
Grinded off the tubes and milled down the CV part square to fit into the square tube... Welded the S#$% out of it. the old splined end actualy fit really good inside the smaller lower tube, so I didn't have to cut it apart. Just slid it in and welded it... I did cap the inside Square tube after running it for a while, it would collect moisture, but that all I've done.

toyguy
03-08-2004, 05:23 PM
how are you guys shimming your square driveshaft to take out slop, please give me very specific details

thanks toyguy

Rescue
03-08-2004, 06:19 PM
Sorry Toyguy about the PM, I had my head else where... I am going to shim the inner part because there is too much play between the square tubings. I can only shim it on top and one side. I know it will throw it off balance but it will be for trail use only. I will make a regular one when I have more funds because it is really nice to have 4WD in winter .

Kyron
03-08-2004, 08:30 PM
I dont belive its even worth it to shim it.

I just caped mine and fill it with lube. All the lube in there does both, balances and takes up the play.......


This isnt rocket science........ its a square drive shaft :D

YotaRunner
03-10-2004, 12:45 AM
Kyron is right! The only reasion I'd shim mine is when there isn't any torque applied ie: coasting down a hill. It rattles a bunch... but it also gets ALOT of attention from super guys that paied $300-$400 for their LT shafts that I still have more travel then....LOL But to each their own.
He's also right..... "It's only a Square D-Shaft!"
You guys sometimes put too much thought in this stuff. Good in most cases, just not this one... But don't be stinggy(sp?) on the welds...
Down falls I deal with:
Yes, in winter and ice I cannot use it, but with the spool in the back I get around just fine. And there is no way I'll take my rig out on ice and snow fast enough to need 4wd (50+mph). I didn't build it to be a race car, and if you need to go that fast in those kinda conditions then pass me...!

Rockcrawlintoy
03-10-2004, 11:20 AM
long travel for the price a of square :D

fj157
03-10-2004, 12:01 PM
so where did you get it, and that slip shaft part looks pretty thin

Rockcrawlintoy
03-10-2004, 12:03 PM
lol from a local drive line shop. ;)

Drew