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sr5toy88
02-19-2004, 08:43 AM
hey guys need some help, i went in to this mud hole and then the shit just droped out from under me...my truck shut off as soon as i hit it. i tried to start it back up but i only sucked in more water, well i got it out and tried starting it again i was shaking the truck a few times and it cranked after a while, but now after i got it back to my shop i changed the oil and the spark plugs and put a new k&n air filter in and now it will not ever start, i have no clue what is wrong with it, but after i changed the oil it still has water in it...what do i need to do?
grissle Chunk
02-19-2004, 09:59 AM
I would take off my oil pan and make sure all of the water and oil drips out of there! Did you dry out the inside of your distributer? Its not going to run if your distributer is wet.
sr5toy88
02-19-2004, 12:03 PM
yeah i am going to take off my oil pan and let ever thing get out and dry out, and thanks i did not even think of drying out my cap
Rescue
02-19-2004, 02:01 PM
This has been covered a thousand times... first of all do a search and youll get your answers. If you cranked the engine with water inside you might of bent a rod or something else. remove your spark plugs, crank the engine to get rid of the water in the piston chambers, change oil 2- 3 times. You don't have to remove the oil pan.... Hopefully you didn't fubar something. Next time when water gets into an engine DO NOT ATTEMPT TO START IT! Remove the water first from the pistons, and change the oil. If your computer got wet its probably caput .
Lastly When changing your oil on the trail do not drop it on the ground. Dispose of it properly!
Why should you change the oil 2 or 3 times? Not that I know better, but it seems to me that not much water would get into the oil to begin with. Assuming a bunch did, most of it would be gone after one change, and driving around dries the oil out.
Tru dat about the bent rod. My buddy did the same thing into a mud puddle. Pulled the plugs, started it up everything seemed fine...until 2 weeks later when it threw a rod:(
Rescue
02-20-2004, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by suv
Why should you change the oil 2 or 3 times? Not that I know better, but it seems to me that not much water would get into the oil to begin with. Assuming a bunch did, most of it would be gone after one change, and driving around dries the oil out.
Tru dat about the bent rod. My buddy did the same thing into a mud puddle. Pulled the plugs, started it up everything seemed fine...until 2 weeks later when it threw a rod:(
Water will not automaticly drain away. it will gather in nooks and crannies and it will mix together with the oil when your running it, and becomes like milk chocolate. Change the oil after driving it a couple of days to get rid of all the moisture out. Do it as many times as needed.... Don't forget that you need to change oil filters everytime you flush the enginel out!
oregon85wheeler
02-20-2004, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Rescue
This has been covered a thousand times... first of all do a search and youll get your answers. If you cranked the engine with water inside you might of bent a rod or something else. remove your spark plugs, crank the engine to get rid of the water in the piston chambers, change oil 2- 3 times. You don't have to remove the oil pan.... Hopefully you didn't fubar something. Next time when water gets into an engine DO NOT ATTEMPT TO START IT! Remove the water first from the pistons, and change the oil. If your computer got wet its probably caput .
Lastly When changing your oil on the trail do not drop it on the ground. Dispose of it properly!
I sucked in a small amount of water once and a week later...
CABOOM!!!
I didn't even realize there was water in there. I wish I would have take pictures. There were chuncks of that motor all over the road!
jvmin
03-08-2004, 01:11 PM
my friend was high revving through a creek and hit a deep spot. it went instantly and as far as oil clean up on the trails goes that was a bear. it was all in the creek and all over the banks we had to shovel for a looooong time to get it all up or at least as much as we could.
you should have seen that block. the rod was hanging out the side with a gapping hole big enough to put your fist through and the oil pan was in two sections where it cut through it. I guess that's what 6000 rpm and instant solid compression will do.
but he should have never been driving like that to begin with in a creek he hadn't been through before. he's not the brightest candle in the pack. he's one of those "hey ya'll watchis guys" fun to watch though for sure.
back to the subject did your computer get wet? it is in your passenger side kick panel unless you moved it and if it got wet there isn't much hope for it. the one in the truck i was speaking of got wet and once the new replacement engine was in. it wouldn't start just like your describing. he had to make a run to the bone yard for a used one cause a new one was really exspensive like 300.00 dollars or something
Rescue
03-08-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by jvmin
my friend was high revving through a creek and hit a deep spot. it went instantly and as far as oil clean up on the trails goes that was a bear. it was all in the creek and all over the banks we had to shovel for a looooong time to get it all up or at least as much as we could.
you should have seen that block. the rod was hanging out the side with a gapping hole big enough to put your fist through and the oil pan was in two sections where it cut through it. I guess that's what 6000 rpm and instant solid compression will do.
Good thing you cleaned up afterward!:beer:
Your friend's truck wouldn't of lasted long anyways reving that much!:no no:
Originally posted by Rescue
Your friend's truck wouldn't of lasted long anyways reving that much!:no no:
You would be surprised what that motor can handle. Mine has seen way to many trips beyond the redline, and she keeps on going. I pull her appart every once in a while just to check on it, and it is still in great shape.
Back on topic, it sounds to me like you did all the wrong things. If you have no damage not only will i be amazed but be left wondering if it happened as you typed it. Chances are you have done catastrophic damage to that motor (if you cranked it until it filled with enough water to lock it up). Water does not compress, and if you kept cranking it until you actually filled the pistons with water(which it sounds like) then its toast.
and tried starting it again i was shaking the truck a few times and it cranked after a while
Sounds to me like you hydrolocked it, then the water under pressure leaked past your seals until you could crank it over. If you didnt actually do it like this, and you just got everything wet, then dry it all off, change the oil a few times, and hope everything is alright.
Toyota crawlin
03-08-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Rescue
This has been covered a thousand times... first of all do a search and youll get your answers. If you cranked the engine with water inside you might of bent a rod or something else. remove your spark plugs, crank the engine to get rid of the water in the piston chambers, change oil 2- 3 times. You don't have to remove the oil pan.... Hopefully you didn't fubar something. Next time when water gets into an engine DO NOT ATTEMPT TO START IT! Remove the water first from the pistons, and change the oil. If your computer got wet its probably caput .
Lastly When changing your oil on the trail do not drop it on the ground. Dispose of it properly!
So First of all it should not matter that some one had posted it before like a "thousand times".... It's cool to talk to people on our site not like Pirite...:(
oregon85wheeler
03-08-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Toyota crawlin
So First of all it should not matter that some one had posted it before like a "thousand times".... It's cool to talk to people on our site not like Pirite...:(
I agree.
Rescue
03-09-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Toyota crawlin
So First of all it should not matter that some one had posted it before like a "thousand times".... It's cool to talk to people on our site not like Pirite...:(
I answered him didn't I? I also think I gave him some good pointers? I'm not flamming the guy, I'm just telling him that the search button is a usefull tool to get some info.
Toyota crawlin
03-09-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Rescue
I answered him didn't I? I also think I gave him some good pointers? I'm not flamming the guy, I'm just telling him that the search button is a usefull tool to get some info.
It was good info.. But I think its better to talk to some one direct all most in person. It's cool.. :beer:
jvmin
03-10-2004, 08:11 AM
yeah it's much better to hear a friendly suggestion and get some really good pointers from some really good people rather than get hammered and called all sorts of names and cussed out and flamed to total ashes and never get a really good answer. from people who think they know everything about 4wd
the pirates board is hard on peeps but you can learn if you ask the correct questions and have extensive knowlege all ready to your benefit to read through all the garbage flaming post. and the serenity to see through it and not get mad and just realize that the feeble minded pride filled person probably wouldn't talk to you that way in person but because he can hide behind a avatar and a web name and seem tough he becomes like a child again and jumps on the band wagon.
with that said
how is the truck coming did you find anything catostrophic?
cracked rods, broken pistons, stretched head bolts, flat spotted bearings, anything bent, etc, etc,
let us know
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