I hate Toyotas!

[CoreyPerez]

I just spent most of last week, as well as last night on the net, searching for part numbers, and last night, I put together my shopping list. Keep in mind, this was just to get an idea for the Brake upgrade in the front, disc conversion in the rear and the power booster/master cyl. upgrade. Well, I came to the conclusion, that Toyotas SUCK! Nearly 1/2 of the items I will need for the conversion/upgrades are General Motors components, and I have no issues with the prices of things from them, but these friggin rice burnin POS's components are through the roof! GAWD DANG! No wonder why I never considered these things before! For instance: GM Rotor: $22, Toyota Rotor: $65 AND THE GM ONE IS TWICE THE SIZE! GM Caliper: $14, Toyota: $49 :mad: :mad: :mad: I'm so pissed right now, I"m half tempted to load the 1/2 finished chassis on the trailer, take it down to pick-n-pull and ditch it!

The way I see it, I've got 3 options.

#1: Find somebody that works at a parts store and gets parts at the normal employee discount (which can be pretty good)

#2: Get a job at a parts store and work there for about a month and get my own discount.

#3: Get a business account and see what that can get me...

Either way, Toyota CRAP SUCKS! Now I'm 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% Glad that I'm swaping in as much GM stuff as I can:
Motor, Trans, Rear Brakes, Brake lines, power steering, Brake Master and anything else that I can get rid of Jap Crap off of the truck doing a conversion.

Gawd, this truck REALLY SUCKS!

Sorry, just had to vent. LONG LIVE GM!

a VERY pissed off Corey:mad: :mad: :mad:

[JOKER]

I don't understand why Toyota owners up grade to dics rears, they have a decent size drum and brake surface for their weight. Heep guys up grade, but have you ever seen some of their small drums.

[joez]

No wonder why I never considered these things before! For instance: GM Rotor: $22, Toyota Rotor: $65 AND THE GM ONE IS TWICE THE SIZE! GM Caliper: $14, Toyota: $49

well, the gm rotor is bigger because it is stopping a truck twice as big. but i bet my toyota will outstop it.

and where did you find a caliper for $49? was it 2 or 4 piston. cause i paid $135 for my 4 piston.

and one more point i would like to add, is that gm and other domestic cars/trucks break down about 3 times as much, and need many more repairs. most new chevy truck owners are happy if the only go to the dealer 5 times in ther first year. my 83 that has had the snot beaten out of it runs better than my uncles 2002 chevy. not to mention that he gets 8 mpg, and i am getting 22.

so when swapping parts, yes, it is cheaper, but if you owned the two trucks, more money would go into the domestic(in the long run)

[robrocketanski]

i think most toyota parts people buy are by choice not because they are broken down. like i have never bought rotors for my trucks. i did buy fj rotors for my 91 but that was by choice, all the straight axle rotors i have are fine as are all their calipers.

[richpblaze]

But drop by my house first so I can pick at it. Blaze

[CoreyPerez]

Well, you can thank the US government for those prices. There are tariffs that the US places on most imported items. See, GM, Ford, and Chrysler are soo $hitty that our government needs to equalize the playing field by inflating prices of the better quality import items. Otherwise, everyone would buy imports. Especially Toyotas and Hondas.

Thats not completely true. I would be buying a part that is produced from the exact same company that produces the ones from GM, and they both are aftermarket. So, no Tariffs due to import.


well, the gm rotor is bigger because it is stopping a truck twice as big. but i bet my toyota will outstop it.

Pound for pound, foot for foot, I'd almost be willing to bet that my old 88K5 Blazer would outstop a Toyota. I was almost put through the windshield of my blazer, and I've had people tell me that the rearend looked like it came off the ground one time from stopping so abruptly. That thing would stop on a dime... (After I completed the 4wheel disc conversion.


I don't understand why Toyota owners up grade to dics rears, they have a decent size drum and brake surface for their weight. Heep guys up grade, but have you ever seen some of their small drums.

I'm not trying to start a pissing contenst here, but I feel, (My personal feelings, and I'll stand by them regardless of what anybodys point is) Anybody who changes the tire size, adds weight or alters the suspension is a complete idiot for not upgrading the safety equipment to meet the added strain on the vehicle. I would NEVER, EVER not make a brake upgrade when making the modifications listed above. Even for the simple fact of safety. Take the simple consideration, that I'm looking to add 37's to the truck (nearly 3x larger than stock), as well as a full Exo, chevy 4.3 (x2 weight), TH350 (x2 Weight), x2 T-cases, 20+Gal fuel cell... Do you really think that toyota engineered the brakes on a 1984 Toyota Pickup for that? If so, consider that it will be ran at an idle (VERY LOW VAC. which the power brakes absolutely depend on/require) when decending an incline that could be in excess of 60deg or more. You would have to be CRAZY to even DREAM that your stock toyota brakes would be capable of controlling your vehicle in this situation or one even remotely near it. You may never need them, but its the one time you do that it pays for its self in a amount that you could never imagine. Think back to those guys in the blazer I think it was that went off the side of Lions Back after a brake failure. I bet you his next vehicle has completely upgraded and in current repair brake system. Most people would consider the FJ Rotors, and rear disc an upgrade, its not. In this application, its a necessity. My safety and well being is worth more than anything, and if making modifications to meet the requirements that off-roading adds to a vehicle then it should be done. I don't think less of people that don't do it, but honestly your just....
I better drop this one.

Do you need more reasons for making the modifications? Its a lot easier to change a rear axle (if need be) if you don't have all that backing plate crap to worry about and bearings to try and press on/off. And you won't have to bleed the brakes if you do. Just unbolt the caliper, and the brake fluid/lines are still 100% contained.

i think most toyota parts people buy are by choice not because they are broken down. like i have never bought rotors for my trucks. i did buy fj rotors for my 91 but that was by choice, all the straight axle rotors i have are fine as are all their calipers.

Ok, lets be honest, if you are waiting for something to brake thats a common wear item, (Brakes, belts, fluilds, hoses...) your a moron. I've never (other than as a super poor kid) waited until something was destroyed / failed to replace it. Thats proper maintance. And I don't think that (in the brake issue we talking about) that the GM's would fail before the Toyotas would. Plus, the sold rotor is a stupid design. I'd take it off and swap it just because its late 60's, early 70's technology. Hell, it just slightly better than drums in the front.

But drop by my house first so I can pick at it. Blaze

Sorry blaze, the wife would be really pissed I think... I'm working out the issue right now, but I may have this entire situation figured out, for now...

All in all, sorry folks. I'm just pissed. These components are not any better than any other part manufactured, and I just don't think that paying that much more is worth it, as far as parts... But, I'm willing to pay to play, and safety is my number one concern, and wouln't let money stand in the way. I'd be a fool / idiot, and so would any body else. It amazes me, how many morons don't take this stuff serious. I believe that you should have more than you need (safety issue), and if I should have a line brake in the system or some other thing like that, I want what is left to work at %100 and that 100% to be enough to keep my arse from being smeared all over a rock 50 feet down...

Corey

[4rnr4evr]

pirate 4x4 has a gm site iguess you will be their 4 now on? oh if you look hard enough you mite find a chevy to buy . hell il sell you one so i can have more $$$ to build my toy even more. just my opinion and thats all i have to say about that!

[robrocketanski]

Ok, lets be honest, if you are waiting for something to brake thats a common wear item, (Brakes, belts, fluilds, hoses...) your a moron. I've never (other than as a super poor kid) waited until something was destroyed / failed to replace it. Thats proper maintance. And I don't think that (in the brake issue we talking about) that the GM's would fail before the Toyotas would. Plus, the sold rotor is a stupid design. I'd take it off and swap it just because its late 60's, early 70's technology. Hell, it just slightly better than drums in the front.


as a toyota pro, tten graduate, ase master technician and automotive instructor i am pretty sure i know when its a good idea to replace something. its like when my father in-law wanted me to replace his plug wires, upper/lower hoses and ignition coil on his chev. these are all parts that we never needed to replace at the dealer on cars up to ten or so years old.
and toyota did design the truck to carry an additional 1400 lbs (payload cap.) w/o a problem that is why they have 4 piston calipers and bigger than average drums and half ton axles etc. any time you see something that an engineer has designed and tested it probably works- if it is a toyota that is. if they dont need vented rotors then they dont need them.

[JOKER]

Originally posted by CoreyPerez
I'm not trying to start a pissing contenst here, but I feel, (My personal feelings, and I'll stand by them regardless of what anybodys point is) Anybody who changes the tire size, adds weight or alters the suspension is a complete idiot for not upgrading the safety equipment to meet the added strain on the vehicle. I would NEVER, EVER not make a brake upgrade when making the modifications listed above. Even for the simple fact of safety. Take the simple consideration, that I'm looking to add 37's to the truck (nearly 3x larger than stock), as well as a full Exo, chevy 4.3 (x2 weight), TH350 (x2 Weight), x2 T-cases, 20+Gal fuel cell... Do you really think that toyota engineered the brakes on a 1984 Toyota Pickup for that? If so, consider that it will be ran at an idle (VERY LOW VAC. which the power brakes absolutely depend on/require) when decending an incline that could be in excess of 60deg or more. You would have to be CRAZY to even DREAM that your stock toyota brakes would be capable of controlling your vehicle in this situation or one even remotely near it. You may never need them, but its the one time you do that it pays for its self in a amount that you could never imagine. Think back to those guys in the blazer I think it was that went off the side of Lions Back after a brake failure. I bet you his next vehicle has completely upgraded and in current repair brake system. Most people would consider the FJ Rotors, and rear disc an upgrade, its not. In this application, its a necessity. My safety and well being is worth more than anything, and if making modifications to meet the requirements that off-roading adds to a vehicle then it should be done. I don't think less of people that don't do it, but honestly your just....
I better drop this one.

Do you need more reasons for making the modifications? Its a lot easier to change a rear axle (if need be) if you don't have all that backing plate crap to worry about and bearings to try and press on/off. And you won't have to bleed the brakes if you do. Just unbolt the caliper, and the brake fluid/lines are still 100% contained.

Corey

Oh, your adding hundreds of pounds of weight, going to an automatic that requires you to use your brakes on desents, and changing so much of your drive line that you no longer have a Toyota power train.

Exo, chevy 4.3 (x2 weight), TH350 (x2 Weight), x2 T-cases, 20+Gal fuel cell... Do you really think that toyota engineered the 1984 Toyota Pickup for that?

http://www.rock-it-land.com/southwestvoodoo/AVATARS/thefinger.gif

Lighter is better! Look at who wins comps. If you shed pounds off your vehicle, then the parts that are on it over engineered for the new weight which helps make up for larger tires and such to a point. Manual tranny with duals and crawler gear in one and you don't need the brakes as much on the steep grades

[muleskinner]

Originally posted by CoreyPerez
I just spent most of last week, as well as last night on the net, searching for part numbers, and last night, I put together my shopping list. Keep in mind, this was just to get an idea for the Brake upgrade in the front, disc conversion in the rear and the power booster/master cyl. upgrade. Well, I came to the conclusion, that Toyotas SUCK! Nearly 1/2 of the items I will need for the conversion/upgrades are General Motors components, and I have no issues with the prices of things from them, but these friggin rice burnin POS's components are through the roof! GAWD DANG! No wonder why I never considered these things before! For instance: GM Rotor: $22, Toyota Rotor: $65 AND THE GM ONE IS TWICE THE SIZE! GM Caliper: $14, Toyota: $49 :mad: :mad: :mad: I'm so pissed right now, I"m half tempted to load the 1/2 finished chassis on the trailer, take it down to pick-n-pull and ditch it!

The way I see it, I've got 3 options.

#1: Find somebody that works at a parts store and gets parts at the normal employee discount (which can be pretty good)

#2: Get a job at a parts store and work there for about a month and get my own discount.

#3: Get a business account and see what that can get me...

Either way, Toyota CRAP SUCKS! Now I'm 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% Glad that I'm swaping in as much GM stuff as I can:
Motor, Trans, Rear Brakes, Brake lines, power steering, Brake Master and anything else that I can get rid of Jap Crap off of the truck doing a conversion.

Gawd, this truck REALLY SUCKS!

Sorry, just had to vent. LONG LIVE GM!

a VERY pissed off Corey:mad: :mad: :mad:

:rolleyes: Sell it and buy an S10.......They're gm. check out the brakes on those babies... Toyota's are very well engineered, and last forever. You cannot find a better designed truck for what we do with them.

[CoreyPerez]

:rolleyes:

Opnions are like A-holes, everybody has one, and they all stink.

What it boils down to is parts prices for these trucks SUCK!

I"m done.... I guess its time to start wrencing on the damn thing again...

[fergusor]

So how is the stopping power on your truck now?

[4rnr4evr]

i strongly believe in this saying "you get what you pay for" i live by it and it hasent let me down!

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by CoreyPerez
:rolleyes:

Opnions are like A-holes, everybody has one, and they all stink.

What it boils down to is parts prices for these trucks SUCK!

I"m done.... I guess its time to start wrencing on the damn thing again...


:D My A hole smells like roses dude:p ...... Yeah the Prices can blow chowder, like that O2 sensor...dont buy after market on the POS you will spend your money over and over. It sounds like you blew off you steam and your ready to get bent over when you need a part.....for the price that is:D .

How is it coming along anyways?

[CoreyPerez]

Its... Coming. I guess anyway. I finally got the motor, trans, T-cases in. I'm rebuilding the front axle right now, and that is why I went to get the parts. I figured that $60 or so should be enough for the rotors and the seals, then I found out that I'd be getting screwed out of $65 each rotor! So, its still sitting on saw horses, with the axles, and supers in the housing, but not much of really anything else. I was waiting for Fergusor to get home, I couldn't remember which way the stupid seals go on the knuckles, and none of the books I have tell.

Anyway, I'm going to try and get most of the axle done tonight, and I may start getting the cross over steering welded up, (thanks rhett) and then I'll swap it out for the axle that is under the truck right now. After that, I'll drop it back down, try and get the chassis harness all put back in and wired up, power to the lights & fuse panel, all that good stuff. Get the interior semi-put back in, and then I'll start getting the 4.3 wired. After that, I'll be waiting on parts so I can get the brakes, drivelines and other misc. components done. The biggest hold backs right now are the 5 tires, and beadlocks, as well as fuel pump and fuel tank, brakes and trying to figure out the exhaust. I'm having a problem with the DS exahust manifold.

The 4th of July is a 3 day weekend for us Military folks, so I'll be on it like stink on s#it, and who knows, I may actually get somewhere with it. After the wife finds a new job, I can really get some money dumped into the truck, but for now, I just need to get it moveable again so I can push the truck out of the way until money falls out of my butt, the project has pretty much hit its end...

Corey

[WildYoats]

Even if the parts were 3 or 4x as much, I would still choose to drive Toyotas over anything else. I dont know many "other" types of vehicles that have over 270K miles on them such as my 85 and still run as great as they do.

My .02! :D

[CoreyPerez]

Not that I'm trying to beat a dead horse here or anything, but if people want to see miles on a something, go to Turbo Diesel Register (http://www.turbodieselregister.com) , go under "Forums" and "Search" for "Million Mile Dodge". No rebuilds, just some minor chassis and wear items replaced.

Anyway, I'll say it again. I'm just pissed that for no GOOD reason, these parts are too damn expensive. They aren't any better than anything else out there. These parts are 20+ years old, so there are no longer patents, or reasons that it should be anywhere near this cost. Its just because people tolerate it that the cost is so high.

Corey
(Ok, NOW i'm done...) And Rhett, its not stopping right now thats the problem, its getting the damn thing together!

[JOKER]

Originally posted by CoreyPerez
Not that I'm trying to beat a dead horse here or anything, but if people want to see miles on a something, go to Turbo Diesel Register (http://www.turbodieselregister.com) , go under "Forums" and "Search" for "Million Mile Dodge". No rebuilds, just some minor chassis and wear items replaced.

Anyway, I'll say it again. I'm just pissed that for no GOOD reason, these parts are too damn expensive. They aren't any better than anything else out there. These parts are 20+ years old, so there are no longer patents, or reasons that it should be anywhere near this cost. Its just because people tolerate it that the cost is so high.

Corey
(Ok, NOW i'm done...) And Rhett, its not stopping right now thats the problem, its getting the damn thing together!

If I cared about a damn Dodge I wouldn't be here, on a toyota board.

And when you put parts on something that was not designed for those parts it don't just go right together.

So quit crying and get more money to buy Toyota parts or just become like the jeepers, that drive jeeps and start slaping chevy crap on it, and get it put together

[CoreyPerez]

:rolleyes:

They call you "Joker" because your a joke... Right?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

So quit crying and get more money to buy Toyota parts or just become like the jeepers, that drive jeeps and start slaping chevy crap on it, and get it put together

You should really get your crap together. I just happen to notice that YOU are putting "Chevy Crap" on YOUR truck. So, watch what you say, it will come back to bite you in the arse! here is the official I'm too good, and I'm perfect, but I still belittle people who use Chevrolet components on their truck and look at me! slap... (http://198.139.121.46/southwestvoodoo/chevyspringINSTALL.htm)

Disclaimer: I'm not usually an A-hole, but I've had it with this subject. I said my piece, and I will defend my position.

Corey

[JOKER]

Originally posted by CoreyPerez
:rolleyes:

They call you "Joker" because your a joke... Right?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



You should really get your crap together. I just happen to notice that YOU are putting "Chevy Crap" on YOUR truck. So, watch what you say, it will come back to bite you in the arse! here is the official I'm too good, and I'm perfect, but I still belittle people who use Chevrolet components on their truck and look at me! slap... (http://198.139.121.46/southwestvoodoo/chevyspringINSTALL.htm)

Disclaimer: I'm not usually an A-hole, but I've had it with this subject. I said my piece, and I will defend my position.

Corey

I'm a joke http://www.rock-it-land.com/southwestvoodoo/laughing.gif http://www.rock-it-land.com/southwestvoodoo/laughing.gif http://www.rock-it-land.com/southwestvoodoo/laughing.gif http://www.rock-it-land.com/southwestvoodoo/laughing.gif

Good one, you sure are witty!

And good try, yes those springs are chevy crap, thanks for linking it. However, if Toyota has some 63" springs in a junk yard somewhere tell me I'll go get them.

Belittle, your are the ass that started a " I hate Toyotas " thread on a Toyota Associations Forum you should expect smack http://www.rock-it-land.com/southwestvoodoo/AVATARS/thefinger.gif

[CoreyPerez]

Um... You were the one smacked.

:D

~Corey
(Sendin love from Hill AFB!)

Just a quick question. I'll be down in Wichita Falls in September, is there any good places to ride/wheel? I may bring my Raptor (The Toy won't be done by then) I know your a little ways away from WTF, but I wasn't sure if there was anything out that way for riding. I did visit that huge canyon (sorry I can't remember the name) 2yrs ago in December, which they had it closed down for seasonal repairs.

Thanks,

Corey

[JOKER]

Originally posted by CoreyPerez
Um... You were the one smacked.

:D

~Corey
(Sendin love from Hill AFB!)

Just a quick question. I'll be down in Wichita Falls in September, is there any good places to ride/wheel? I may bring my Raptor (The Toy won't be done by then) I know your a little ways away from WTF, but I wasn't sure if there was anything out that way for riding. I did visit that huge canyon (sorry I can't remember the name) 2yrs ago in December, which they had it closed down for seasonal repairs.

Thanks,

Corey



That was maybe Paloduro Canyon? I have been wanting to check that place out.

Raptor, I presume you mean the ATV go and check out some of the forums here (http://www.texasoffroad.net/home/ka.php) those guys are all over the state.


Get your Chevota going and come down and check out Katemcy Rocks. Here is a link to some good recent pic out there link (http://128.83.80.200/taco/pp.html)

N.A.R.R.C.A. will be there in September you should come down and check out our central Texas granite

[CoreyPerez]

Depending on where it is, I'd be more than willing to see some west texas wheelin! I don't know how the school schedule will be, but weekends are usually free, unless there is a test on Monday. Considering I've been in this job for about a year, I guess I should know how to do it (by now.... which I don't)

I'll check it out.

Thanks,

Corey

~Later

[Sami_Yota]

What ever, you should of got a Samurai and built from there. That is what I did and love it! :D

http://server42.hypermart.net/planetvegeta2/arguing.jpg

[4xfred]

:D
Corey,
Remember this, it's no fun to get in a battle of wits w/an unarmed person!!! Seriously, you gotta know somebody in a local shop that gets a discount. If you were around here, I'd be glad to pass my 20% along. Yeah, you're right, stuffs expensive. But it lasts. Glad you had a place to vent. Later...

[CoreyPerez]

Just so everybody here knows "Sami_yota is my best friend, from back in the days of the Fire Department when I was stationed out in North Carolina. And, in my defense, his sami doesn't run/move right now :D Haha, take that Brian! Oh, and that picture he attached... Thats him :p

4xFred,

Thanks for the offer. I did end up getting my rotors for just over $18 ea. And that was the exact same price that I paid for the GM's that I got for the rear. There was some talk earlier on this post that Toy rotors would cost more because of... Well, I knew they shouldn't & wouldn't. And... They didn't.

As a matter of fact, I got my 2 fronts, 2 rears and my GM Master cylinder for less than the "sucker" cost for the 2 fronts alone. So, I'm happy now.

Thanks you know who...

Corey

[Sami_Yota]

My Sami runs (we'll as soon as I put a new fuseable link in) and it moves (as fast as my wife can push me down the street! :D
And the only reason it isn't moving now is because of the damn T-5 tranny's clutch slave cly.
Nothing wrong with my yota stuff, and I didn't bitch when I got my parts... wait... mine were FREE! HAHAHAHAHAHA :p

[robrocketanski]

the real issue is people on the outside wouldnt even understand why we would take some of these parts for free let alone spend thousands on them. beauty is in the eye of the beholder- its all junk to my wife so who can put a price tag on it:D

[CoreyPerez]

Ya, ya, ya...

We won't go there. I'll send ya some pictures in a bit with the project as of yet & the spring sandwich plates I just made yesterday.

Corey

[sparky]

man you are going to the wrong place for parts.

i bought my rotors and new pads on my 85 for $50 at checker with a life time gaurentee. i figure if they die oh well! and they have been stopping my crazy driving habits for a couple of years now!

[sparky]

i had to put that picture in

its not in reference to anyone!:D

[rcl732]

I'm not so sure Mr. Perez understands what it is that
makes Toyotas better than other trucks.

[rcl732]

I'm not so sure Mr. Perez understands what it is that
makes Toyotas better than other trucks.

[rcl732]

I'm not so sure Mr. Perez understands what it is that
makes Toyotas better than other trucks.

[CoreyPerez]

Sparky,

Just a FYI, when you need your pads replaced, the "Life Time Warr." doesn't cover that. I've worked in parts supply on and off for over 10years, thats not what the Warr. is for. Granted, at one point in time, it wasn't a big deal to get your pads replaced, but now the money hungry monsters that over charge us for replacement parts are getting everything that they can. They now will only replace your pads if they are DEFECTIVE, not worn out. IF!!!!, you find a place that will replace them because they are worn out, than great, but if the Manager found out, He wouldn't / shouldn't let the transaction take place. I even felt bad for some old guy about a month ago... At checker in Layton. I came in during the middle of the argument. When he purchased the pads for what ever vehicle, the counterman told him "These pads carry a lifetime warranty..." Well, if you read the small print, parts stores and other places screw you over because they don't inform you that its a LIMITED lifetime warranty, and its LIMITED to specific reasons that the pads would be covered under the Warranty, and normal use/wear is not covered. This poor guy was dup'd into buying these "guarenteed for life" pads that really only had a "limited lifetime warranty"... This happens all too often these days...

Just a FYI...

Corey

[CoreyPerez]

Lifetime pads are engineered to last longer. Read: stops slower and more heat transferred to the rotors. As a result, you will experience runout on the rotors.
Absolutely, I didn't mention it due to my belief that it was pretty much common knowldege. Its Semi-Metalic (Lifetime) vs. Organic (non-lifetime). Pads are usually about 1/3 the cost of a rotor, so it only makes sense to me to replace pads, vs. rotors. But thats 10+yrs parts counter & atleast 5yrs service tech talking now..

This is the reason that brake places offer lifetime warranty (yes on pads) for their service. These places charge enough for labor alone to make their money, and when you consider the initial cost of the pads and rotors through the service place, and each time they charge you "labor" for turning the rotors and replacing the pads.... They will more than make their money back by offering a "Lifetime Warranty". Thats why I have all my own tools and do nearly all my own work. Usually a "Lifetime Warranty" isn't worth what it cost you to have the warranty honored.

[CoreyPerez]

Yep, thats the way I have always seen it... It may not be true in all instances, but usually what they charge for labor will be near the cost of the new one...

Later & have a good 4th... Sitting here, at work... I'm sure I'm the only one left on this base...

Corey

[sparky]

i do all my own work on my vehicles. i hate someone else touching my stuff.

it is very interesting about this warrenty stuff. i figured they would never replace them anyway. as for rotors i feel that if the pads are worn out you might as just replace the rotors as well. my reason behind this is that you are taking off material from the rotor, causing it to heat up easier and also warp easier causing even more problems. next time i replace my pads and rotors i am going to intall ifs calipers and fj60 vented rotors. i don't like how the solod rotors heat up. not that i have had too many problems with this but it just seems like an easy swap.;) not cheap but easy.:D

[4rnr4evr]

ive only bought 1 set of brake pads since 1995 with a lifetime warenty. now i dont know who is rite but as long as im gettin free pads i sure as hell aint sayin nuthing.:D :D

[4rnr4evr]

and never bought rotors

[MaverickToy81]

lol...This is the way I see it:

Toyota parts are so expensive, because people dont buy them often enough because of the quality engineering of A toyota vehicle. Companies that make Toyota parts have to charge, and arm, a leg and your firstborn because of the fact that Toyotas dont often break down. They have to make money some how guys...

Now sit back, crack a beer, and watch the girls go by. No need to argue over this. We have bigger problems nowadays than why shit is so expensive. So, lets all make nice and go play outside.

Ian