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yotasoldier
09-27-2007, 02:30 PM
I have a 1987 4x4 pickup that has stock gears, but have 31x10.5x15 on it. It has the 22r and it runs just fine after I have fix some of the problems that it had. Would the 22re be a good thing for me to put on my truck? What would be the diff. if put that motor in my truck? Would it be stronger, faster, beter on gas and so on? Please let me know, you all seem to be pro's?

808derek
09-28-2007, 02:03 AM
I have a 1987 4x4 pickup that has stock gears, but have 31x10.5x15 on it. It has the 22r and it runs just fine after I have fix some of the problems that it had. Would the 22re be a good thing for me to put on my truck? What would be the diff. if put that motor in my truck? Would it be stronger, faster, beter on gas and so on? Please let me know, you all seem to be pro's?

well to put in a 22re ur eather gonna need a doner truck casue ur gonna need a different harness but ife runs smoother i think but it only make idk 10 more ponys, i say stick with the 22r u got its a really good motor, their both really good motors but y would u wanna go through all the trouble to get 10 more ponys, just get a carb and some headers and you should have some decent power for ur 31s, u shouldnt have any problems with them now

fourwd1
09-28-2007, 06:36 AM
The RE does have advantages over the R; 15 HP or so, a little better MPG, no problems operating a steep angles.

The issue is wether or not the swap is worth it to you. Consider the cost of what you'll need: the 22RE, ECM, harness, EFI gas tank/elec pump, high press fuel line, etc. Then paying someone to do it if you don't have the skills/tools/time, etc.

Or you could regear your diffs to match the larger tires and regain the lost power. (But then 31's are not big, people run 33's with 22R's and stock gearing all the time and deal with the power loss.)

Or do some performance improvements to your 22R.

yotasoldier
09-28-2007, 06:40 AM
if I get the ife would I beable to add any other mods to get more horse power? I am planing to put 33's on my truck? I thought someone had told me that the 22r just puts out about 96 horse power and the 22re puts out over 110, is that true? They also say that the 22re is quicker? I am planning to put new headers and air filter, that would make some more pony's, right?

85yotto
09-28-2007, 09:26 AM
I think it's only 105hp stock. Not like it is that big of a diff'.

bodo
09-28-2007, 01:01 PM
22RE is 116hp at 4800 RPM and 140ft.lbs at 2800 RPM

22R is 96hp at 4800RPM and 129ft.lbs at 2800 RPM

They must have changed something on the 22R in 89' because my book list 103hp at 4800 RPM and 133ft.lbs at 2800RPM.

808derek
09-28-2007, 02:13 PM
different heads i think or some thing a long that line, like pistons travel farther or shorter idk i cant remember, but y dont you just put hearders, cam and a carb and youll have enough power for 35s.

bodo
09-28-2007, 03:12 PM
different heads i think or some thing a long that line, like pistons travel farther or shorter idk i cant remember, but y dont you just put hearders, cam and a carb and youll have enough power for 35s.

I don't recall anything being changed on the heads between 88 and 89 and the stroke and comp ratio were the same so I have no idea unless it's a misprint in my book.

85yotto
09-29-2007, 07:47 AM
Model Year Max Horsepower
(@ RPM) Max Torque
(@ RPM) Cylinders Displacement (ccm) Fuel Delivery Compression Bore (mm) Stroke (mm)
20R 1979-1980 90@4800 122@2400 4 2189 Carburetor 8.4:1 88 89
22R 1981-1987 96@4800 129@2800 4 2366 Carburetor 9.0:1 92 89
22RE 1985-1988 105@4800 137@2800 4 2366 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.3:1 92 89
22RTE 1986-1987 135@4800 173@2800 4 2366 Turbocharged, Electronic Fuel Injection 7.5:1 92 89
22RE 1989-1995 112@4600 142@3400 4 2366 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.3:1 92 89
3VZE 1988-1995 150@4800 180@3400 6 2958 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.0:1 87.5 90
3RZFE 1996-Present 150@4800 177@4000 4 2693 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.5:1 95 95
5VZFE 1996-Present 190@4800 220@3600 6 3378 Electronic Fuel Injection 9.6:1 93.5 82

The year that was noted as of yet was 1987. This puts it as the early 22RE which is 105hp. If you are buying a rebuilt note the year of it to know if it is the earlier or later 22RE. Also the big reason for the 22RE versus the 22R *FOR ME* is that the 22RE isn't carbed so it won't cut out on you on the super steep stuff. (Also for what I hear the 22RE gets better MPG.) Your 22R should be just fine for what you have talked about as of yet, I think you should just keep it. If you wanted more power then get it regeared to 4.88 and you will have power, better MPG and save money. (2cents)

bodo
09-29-2007, 09:09 AM
Wher did you get your info from? Some of my numbers are the same as yours and some aren't so I might need a new book.

yotasoldier
09-29-2007, 10:26 AM
85yotto thanks for all the info its really cool that people are here to help. I am new to this when you talk about the gears 4.88, what is that and what exactly would it do? Do you happen to know what the stock gears are in a 1987? If I did what you say and then still wanted the 22re would those gears work for that? Thank you 85yotto!

808derek
09-29-2007, 12:21 PM
4.88 gears mean changing your gears in ur rear diffrential. it compinsates for biger tires. most likely the gear ratio in ur 87 is 4.10 thats a really common one. but if you wanted to put a 22re in it wouldnt matter what gears you have.

85yotto
09-29-2007, 05:18 PM
bodo im not sure if this will show at a link or not but this is where I got that info.
http://4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/

Also You could put a header on it and an exhaust system on it and that would give you more power and better MPG.

yotasoldier it's like 808derek said. You see the gearing is in your differentials, so you would have to have it changed in both (front and rear) if you want to have a 4x4 thats working right. If you go to this web site it will tell you alot of the info that you need, yet you may still have to check the plates on your door jam and under the hood to find out what you have exactly. I would bet that 808derek is right and you have 4.10 gears if you have a manual transmission. You said that it's running good so I can't see why you would want to put a butt load of money in changing out the motor. I also don't quite understand what it is that you want to be able to do in this truck. The truck will not be winning any street races even with the 22RE in it. Now you can win races to the top of a hill that has no road, but you can do that with what you have now. basicly these are not fast trucks but for what they lack on the road they make up for off the road.

808derek
09-29-2007, 08:15 PM
couldnt of said it better :lol: