starter probs again!!!

[Le_Roi]

so i decided to replace my old starter because teh teeth on the gear were gettings rounded off and wasnt alwasy catching the flywheel so i went and got one from the local part store and bolted up the new one in about 30 mins i go to turn the key adn nothen a buddy siad there was a single click which led me to think i just got a crap starter adn the solenoid was bad so i hooked the old one back up and again nothen (keep in mind my old starter worked before i took it off) so i took one of those cheesy current checkers that lights up if u have 6-12v (sorry not sure of the tech name of this tool) well both the battery cable that goes to the starter and the ignition wire that connects to teh start (just a clip beside the termial on the starter) lit up when i tested them so i replaced my battery terminal connectors jsut to see and again nothen so im lost i mean it worked when i took it off and now nothen any advice would help im not big on electircal stuff so im at a loss
thanks

(oh its an 84 runner im workin on)

[ToxicToy]

Umm how intersting, umm have you looked at the battery cables and battery? Also check to see if everything is connected, and check out the alternator, hope this helps. Am not good at this either.

[holeshot41]

Try a voltage drop on your pos and neg terminals. just because your getting 12v at the starter dont mean your getting the amps. take a DVOM (Digital Voltage Ohm Meter)pot the pos lead on the pos terminal of your battery and the neg. lead on your pos side of your starter. Then have a friend try to start it. there shouldmt be that big of a voltage dropif so then replace eather your cable end or your cable. try it on the ground lise with neg. lead on your starter housing. IF i am explaining it/ doing it wrong please correct me. hope this helps and good luck

[Le_Roi]

well i got it runnign but ot be honets im not sure what i did lolme and a buddy went out there and started chasing wires and trouble shottin and in the process i decide to hook the starter back up so if we changed anythign i could just get in and turn the key so i hooked everythign back up and ill be damned if it didnt start so i have no clue what i changed/did but its fixed but thanks for the input

[holeshot41]

ooh in that case . . . . . grenlins. those little bastards are everywhere

[LarrySmith]

today i had my truck flexed in the ditch in my back yard by my parts trucks, and parked it there to get some springs off a 86... got back in truck and it would only click.. i took starter wire off and put a new wire to starter to the battery and it worked...

[LarrySmith]

may just be a shortage in the starter wire.......

[ryan]

I'll bet that there was too much corrosion in your cable not allowing enough juice to get to your starter. This would cause your probe light ( that what I call your 12 volt indicator) to light up, but not to turn over the starter.

[Le_Roi]

hell who knows thats the only thing that has ever givin me anytrouble out of that truck (electrical stuff) its always something random i made a "U" turn last night and i layed into the gas to avoidtrafic and my radio just cut off no reason apretntly cuase i hit the power button about a min later and it cut back on like someone said before "grimlins"

[Le_Roi]

well she did it again i guess i have a wire with a short somewhere .....

[Loki]

had the same problem cleaned the terminals on the battery, replaced the terminal connectors, used the terminal sealant, and it fired right up...glad you got it fixed

[85yodaflatbed]

replace the contacts and plunger in the starter solinoid parts cost about $30.00 most of the time the remans haven't even been changed takes about 10 mins after the starter is out

[Le_Roi]

so u think its that instead of a wiring prob the only thing that gets me is it doesnt work with my old start either( old starter worked when i took it off) plus qhen it quite this time it was weird i went out and started the the truck but it cut off like it mornally does on the first start of the day but when i tried to cranl it again ... nothen and it has been nothen every sence

[bodo]

If you tap on the front of it with a hammer will it spin?

[Le_Roi]

to be honest i havent i knwo thats one of the old cures for the prob but when we fixed it before to be honest we didnt knwo how we fixed it we just kinda took a chance and turn the key and it worked then it worked all weekend (will i was mudding and everythign) then two days after being back home it starts but sies then nothen i think its a wire somewhere or possibly the ignitsion switch im at a loss

[bodo]

Mine did that with the stock starter so I bought a new one and all was fine for about 8 months and now it's just hit or miss when it wants to start or not, but the tapping always makes it go. I have another new (lifetime) autozone starter in the toolbox so if the tapping stops working I'm not stuck.

I also replaced all the wiring when I built the stroker and put in a yellow optima which I thought fixed it but now I'm back to tapping. Oh well when it stops working I'll swap in the new one but with my luck it will be on the side of the road in the ghetto at night with country music playing.

[Le_Roi]

so the tapping does work for you?

[Loki]

someone needs some spelling and grammar checking...it's hard to get the meat of your posts...

did you replace any of the terminal connectors to the starter clean the ground with contact cleaner and replace connector and possibly wire. replace the wires and terminals clean and seal contacts...have you done any of this, could be a loose or shorted wire if it starts sometimes.

have you ever gone in to try and start it and all the dash lights go out and then nothing happens?

can you hear the fuel pump whine when you turn the key?

do you hear a clicking noise?

have you replaced the solenoid?

does this only happen when it's cold?

does your truck have the neutral kill switch still installed?

[Le_Roi]

yea sorry about that spelling/typing and grammer are def not my high points and odd are i had alittle of the "ght" in me when i posted it (bud light) anyways heres what i have done i have replaced both positive and negative battery terminals and i have cleaned where the ground cable bolts to the finder i have also had the started tested and it passed i have tested both the power cable (thats bolts to the std of the starter) and the igniton wire and there both getting power i have power to everything (radio wipers all lights) and none of my dash lights have ever went out they just get dim when i turn the key all the way (which tells me the switch is working cause its pulling power)

as far as the fuel pump ... i do not hear it but then again i have never heard it (atleast i dont think so) and there is a single click but u have to be under the truck to hear it

so thats about it im about to go tap it with a hammer and see what happens wish me luck

[Le_Roi]

oh and im not sure exactly what a neutral kill switch is or what it does so if u could feel me in on that, that would be great

[Le_Roi]

aight so i tapped it and it worked so what does that mean

[bodo]

That means you have shit all up in your starter and when you had it tested it happened to be off the rag. Spray WD40 in the vent tube with the little red straw thing and see what comes out. Also just crank it and turn it off and when it doesn't crank tap it if it cranks you know what your problem is.

[85yodaflatbed]

i allready told you how to fix your starter you need to repair the contacts inside trust me easy fix cheaper than a reman and after 12 years in the auto repair industry i have repaired many more toyota staters than i have replaced and dont spray WD40 in it duh!

[bodo]

i allready told you how to fix your starter you need to repair the contacts inside trust me easy fix cheaper than a reman and after 12 years in the auto repair industry i have repaired many more toyota staters than i have replaced and dont spray WD40 in it duh!

I was trying to help the guy figure out what his problem was without spending any money, which I think I did or he did. Lets just look at it this differently, your solution cost $30.00 and my solution cost $0.00. He has a NEW starter so now he can take his NEW starter back and get another for free instead of spending $30.00 on a NEW starter with a warranty.

I'm glad you have 12 years in the automotive repair industry but I ONLY post what has worked for me, so if spraying WD40 into the vent tube of a starter that you just bought and are probably going to take back anyway makes it work then I guess I'm a DUH.

I don't have much respect for people in the INDUSTRY because most of them don't know what they're talking about. Sounds like you know starters though so if I get tired of tapping for free I might PM you.

[Le_Roi]

ill try the WD-40 cause like bodo siad "$0.00" and ill se where that gets me if nothen changes then ill push forward with the contacts in side the starter right now im happy the truks just running again it is indeed alittle imbarising when i have to get out and tap it in the parkin lot with people lookin at me weird but im used to that cause a few teeth on my fly wheel and jacked up so i already have to rock it every once in a while anyways the kicker is when i have to do both then the looks i get are awsome :grin: