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Arm&Leg Yotas
12-10-2006, 04:17 PM
I went out today in my 85 4runner with the fuel injected 22r (22re). Drove trails a couple hours just fine. as im driving on the road home it shuts down. Nothing funky, no warnings, just off. got it on again and it barely idled. the gas pedal did absolutely nothing and dies everytime i put the clutch in. now it turns and turns but wont start. I know the previous owner completely rebuilt it less than 10k ago. im not too good a wrench yet so was wonderin other people's opinion on where i should start the troubleshooting. any ideas? thanks.
subliminaltrips
12-10-2006, 04:23 PM
sounds like your not getting fuel, check for fuel pressure. maybe the fuel pump, fuel filter. check all the electrical connecvtions like the tps , afm and check th ewiring harness for any bare wires, check the fuses under the hood on the passenger fender.
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-10-2006, 05:30 PM
The first thing i thought was fuel to. It was acting like it would if it ran out of gas. i had a car that the fuel injectors went out on and my 4runner is acting the same way. so really quick i starting looking over the fuel system and either its hidden or im an idiot and dont know where the fuel pump is.
skittles
12-10-2006, 06:25 PM
shouldn't be hard to fine it's locked tight in a metal case known as the gas tank :grin:
-trent
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-10-2006, 06:38 PM
that would explain why i didnt see it. im gonna trysomemore tomm. thanks alot.
subliminaltrips
12-10-2006, 06:40 PM
pop the fuel line to the cold start injector loose in a well ventilated area stuck a soda bottle on it to catch the fuel in case your pump is good. then turn the key on, if it sprays you have good fuel pressure. if not id check the fuel filter under the intake manifold bolted to the block. if you take the filter loose on the output side, you could try tho see if thats blocked by removing the output side of the filter and turn the key and then if that doesnt work try the input to the filter. if you get fuel squirting you might have an issue with your regulator or some type of electrical or vacuum issue. if no fuel its gotta be the pump or the pump not getting power. there is a test spot on the diagnostic terminal to make the fuel pump run. im not sure of its xact location and i forget what year they started that, i think all efi 22re's have the terminal. look t the 85 fsm, you can find it on 4x4 wirebor search google for 85 toyota pickup fsm.
wrnchplr
12-10-2006, 07:10 PM
There is a little wire from the battery to the fuse box under the hood. That wire will break and there goes the power to everything. I would start there before taking things apart....
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-10-2006, 08:20 PM
it has all power. i thought fuel all along i just dont know much about it, like i said im new to all this but bought my runner and said i would do all the work/build of it. ill try all the suggestions tommorrow and let you know how it goes. thanks again
wrnchplr
12-11-2006, 09:07 AM
If you have someone listen by the gas tank you can hear the pump turn on when the key is turned on. Check the grounds....BTW what is you location if your close I got lots of free time and could lend a hand...
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-11-2006, 12:41 PM
[QUOTE=subliminaltrips]. there is a test spot on the diagnostic terminal to make the fuel pump run. im not sure of its xact location and i forget what year they started that, i think all efi 22re's have the terminal. QUOTE]
i have the haynes manual and it doesnt say anything about a diagnostic terminal.it shows where the "service connector" is but doesnt tell what it is for or what to do with it. Is that what your talking about? Im in Logan wnchplr but i dont do pity sex except for fine females. sorry.
wrnchplr
12-11-2006, 12:57 PM
If you pull the fuel pump relay it should be #2&4, bridge those and the pump will work. on the check connecter it should be #1&12. If you have a haynes just follow the wiring digram and that will help isolate the problem. once you have fuel then move on to spark or pull a plug wire and test the spark first. You could have a very weak coil so make sure the spark is blue...Sorry but Logan is way to far to drive my $hit box in this weather.....
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-11-2006, 02:42 PM
I finally got a chance to get to the garage and start playing.Seen as how i didnt really look anything over yesterday i decided to start with the easy stuff and go from there. well it took all of 15 seconds to find what was going on. the efi fuse was blown. seen as how i had a whole pack i threw one in started it right up like nothing was ever wrong. From what very little experience i have, I was under the impression the fuses blew when there is a bigger problem. one you fix the problem no blown fuses. so any ideas how or why it blew. where to go from here? BTW, its cool wrnchplr i understand how the drive can suck a$$.
wrnchplr
12-11-2006, 03:15 PM
There are many reasons that a fuse can blow. I would say the most common is just fatige. Glad it was a simple easy fix for ya... :grin:
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-11-2006, 03:35 PM
yeah i am glad too. i feel like a dip$hit for not just looking in the first place. anyways thanks everyone.
subliminaltrips
12-11-2006, 06:10 PM
sounds like your not getting fuel, check for fuel pressure. maybe the fuel pump, fuel filter. check all the electrical connecvtions like the tps , afm and check th ewiring harness for any bare wires, check the fuses under the hood on the passenger fender.
check your wiring harness around the exhaust. alot of times the o2 sensor wires short out when the hot exhaust burns through the insulation on the wires. id look your harness over for any bare wires that could contact the frame. i believe i meantioned this above.
Arm&Leg Yotas
12-29-2006, 11:02 AM
The last time i replaced the fuse and it ran good for 2 weeks. yesterday i went wheeling and it blew again. when i put a new one in it blew the second i turned the engine over. The o2 wiring is all good. i cant find any wire that would short out. I checked the fuel filter and had no fuel so i popped the lines right after they come out of the pump and no fuel would come out. So i figured the pump is out. I towed it home ( by a jeep :bluecryin ) When i got home i replaced the fuse and it started right up and ran fine. The efi main relay is good. sorry its so long but i wanted to be specific. could a bad fuel pump blow the efi fuse. A mechanic i talked to said that wouldnt do it. Any ideas
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