What is the better "JOINT"?

[azredliner]

I'm getting my stuff together for a crawler and I need an opinion on strength when it comes to upgrading the stock Birfields.

Is there a bullet proof inner axle set up for under $600.00?
I was googling around and saw these three; Longfields, Marfields and the Birfield Eliminator Kits (made by different people). All three costs around $600.00.

So, which is best for the money?

[KToy]

birf eliminator kit was good idea until longfield came out with 4340 30 spline chromos for 550.


strength of a d60 for half the cost.

my friend has them and hasnt had an issue plus lifetime warranty.

[azredliner]

Are Pro Fields worth looking at?

[ryan]

I hear there is a way to modify stock birfs by welding them in certain spots or something. Anyone else heard of this?

[azredliner]

Here's my shopping list so far:

Toyota stock rear springs, on the front end - No Cost
Ford F-150 rear springs, on the rear end - $100.00
Welded Rear Spring Hanger - $45.00
High-steer from Trail Gear - $369.00
Post '85 powersteering box from eBay - $100.00
Longfields @ Marlin Crawler - 30 spline - 4340 chromoly, $645
Front Axle Gusset With Holes,@ Marlin Crawler - $25
Differential Armor Competition style weld on differential armor,@ Marlin Crawler - $25.00
knuckle ball kit, @ Marlin Crawler - $29
Toyota U-Bolt Flip Kit @ Marlin Crawler - Front & Rear - $100.00
Interior Cage Kit @ Marlin Crawler - In Cab - $395.00
All Pro Bed Kit $399.00
Turtle Tuff™ Crossmember @ Marlin Crawler $195.00
Dual Transfer Case Adapter @ Marlin Crawler $349.00

[keyice]

the 30 spline kit or the 27 spline
Poly performance also offers a similar kit

[azredliner]

What's the deal on the "splines" Will either one fit in a stock straight axle?

[22REkid]

I have bought a couple things from Poly Performance and I have to say that I don't like them that much. I bought some Beard race seats from them and they didn't show up for a long time. I had to call them 4 times in the process and they always said that they would call me back and never did. Then I got the seats and one was ripped. I also bought the 30 spline 4340 Tacoma axles for $420, the price was right but the customer service was not

[Kyron]

Here's my shopping list so far:

Interior Cage Kit @ Marlin Crawler - In Cab - $395.00
All Pro Bed Kit $399.00


I thought you were going to buy a bender??

Get the Longs and you'll be happy :grin:

[Kyron]

Can't forget............

Here's my shopping list so far:

Toyota U-Bolt Flip Kit @ Marlin Crawler - Front & Rear - $100.00




I thought you could make your own :wink:

[azredliner]

Can't forget............




I thought you could make your own :wink:

Hey, let sleeping dogs lye. I admit, I didn't know shit then, but I'm getting wise to this Toyota thing. I bought a whole rear set up from a F-150 today for $80.00 Springs, U-bolts and plates.

I was going to get the bender, but I can get a bent, ready to weld cage for less than I can buy raw steel. I figure why throw out more money and time when I could use the money on dual cases or something. The time I can spend wheeling! :redspotda

[KToy]

why buy a bender. cuz u still need bumpers, shock hoops, and then when u roll urs and build another one youlll need the same stuff bent. or an exo cage.

[azredliner]

why buy a bender. cuz u still need bumpers, shock hoops, and then when u roll urs and build another one youlll need the same stuff bent. or an exo cage.

That's what friends are for. I have several friends with manual benders and friend that owns a mufflershop with a hydro bender. He told me anytime I needed something done, just show up after 5:00pm with a case of beer and materials.

Nobody said anything until I said I was getting a bender, then everyone tells me "We'll bend it, we'll weld it". One of my friends has a new Miller 251 welder and a bender, another teaches welding at the college and owns Hurricane Welding.

So all I have to do is ask, and pitch a little something in for the sweat and power.

[leorn]

if you need something more than longfields its dana 60. buddy had the eliminator and he had to get the longs. do it right the first time. there is not a joint that compares in anything that I have ever read. I have the longs and I know the eliminator didn't last. no other first hand experience though.

[azredliner]

I was reading about the Super Longfields and it was stated that the Longfields are "as strong, if not stroger, than Dana 60's". I think I read that at 4X4wire or Pirate4X4 or someplace. I've been doing so much reading lately, I don't know where I've been.

[Kyron]

Hey, let sleeping dogs lye. I admit, I didn't know shit then, but I'm getting wise to this Toyota thing.


Its all good :kiss:

IMO a well designed exo cage is just as strong as as internal cage for the type of roll over action it will see.

[TRunner]

The longfield test show that they break with about the same force as a 60, but they twist up more before they break. meaning the 60's are rigid, and the longs are more "flexible" under torsion, which is a good thing when you're all locked up and on rock. Something has to give a little!

Get the longs they're also a lot less hassle.