Running 37s with stock axels

[Tiggy]

i wana upgrade my yota a little bit, i wana lift it a couple more inches and put some 37.5 inch or 38 inch TSL swampers ( Not boggers )
Also wana run a aussie locker in the rear and keep the front open.
Would i be running into a lot of broken axels or would it stay strong

I forgot to say that the truck is a 1980 Toyota Pickup with a 4 speed tranny and a 20r engine.

[johntoyota]

Being open you shouldnt have too much problem with breaking them but it cant ever hurt to have a good one in there if you can afford it. If not, I would definitely have some spairs.

[muddy_yota_guy]

If you're going to be gettin on the throttle a lot or doing reverse digs, then you should probly look into upgrading the front

[BigDaddy]

For $200 you can get some strong shafts 4340 chromoly....then save your cash and slowly upgrade to Strong birfs.

http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/images/InnerAxlePhoto.jpg


WWW.Longfieldsuperaxles.com

[fenderbmxer86]

37.5?

I would upgrade the birfs before the shafts.

You WILL break birfs with that big of a tire. No doubts about it.

[Tiggy]

what kind of gears should i get
5.29s

do you think that would be a fun and somewhat the keyword is somewhat capable 4 wheeler


1980 Toyota 4x4 shortbox
20r engine 4 speed tranny
37.5 tsl swampers
6 inch to 7 inch lift, maby even 8
Aussie locker in the rear
open diff up front


i just want a cheap fun 4x4

[Ghetto]

What kind of 4-wheeling do you do?

[Tiggy]

just simple trails and shit, not to much rocks, some mud here and there.

[BigDaddy]

I know a few guys who ran 38's on stock shafts, they did MUD only. I dont think he had to much problems....You will figure out what you need when you break, it maybe painfull at times but you will figure it out.

[TrucksChixnbeer]

I broke a birf in the first 5 hours i had my 38's on my truck... all i did was pull the front end up on a ecolgy block and it broke... im hard on my rig and i havnt broke a stock axle yet but i have the older longfields with the ring around teh outsideand they are tough as nails.

[fenderbmxer86]

Iv broke birfs with 31" tires on a 1 foot tall rock.
But iv also ran the con on 35s with stock birf w/ no break.

You never really know the condition that the birfield is in. I would suggest just getting some upgrades the frist time around, Birfields are the messiest trail fix out there.

[fenderbmxer86]

Greese will be your best friend. Make sure you use about 3/4 of a tub of greese when you put them in.

[Ghetto]

I have broke birfields and longfields, but I have never broke an axle. I would upgrade the birfields. If you can always add axle shafts later if you break one. Your rear axle will probably be fine.

[Tiggy]

at longeilds .com the kit i want is the 27 spline front chromoly 4340 shafts, is that all i need for the front .
also is it worth upgrading the rear axels or is it not nessasary ( **************** im drunk sorry for the spelling )

[Ghetto]

Those are awesome. You would probably never have a problem with that kit just doing trails.

[azredliner]

i wana upgrade my yota a little bit, i wana lift it a couple more inches and put some 37.5 inch or 38 inch TSL swampers ( Not boggers )
Also wana run a aussie locker in the rear and keep the front open.
Would i be running into a lot of broken axels or would it stay strong

I forgot to say that the truck is a 1980 Toyota Pickup with a 4 speed tranny and a 20r engine.

I'm running 32x11.50's and I did this with stock axles...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/azredliner/GilaValley13.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/azredliner/GilaValley14.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/azredliner/GilaValley15.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/azredliner/GilaValley16.jpg

Now, these photos may not look like much, but there was a 2 foot rock shelf half ways up (behind me in the last photo) this "Rocky Road". The grade was very steep and rocky. The trail would be rated "Moderate". It's a lot harder than mud.

[fenderbmxer86]

What kind of trails are you going to be running? the kind above or like these trails (This place is in my town ) www.mixchallenge.info

You do not need to upgrade your rear axle, go IFS if you do. Its cheaper and youll get more width.

I think a set of Marfields from marlincrawler.com would do you just fine.

[Tiggy]

no none of that hard stuff, just simple easy fun trails and i like to go mudding a bit to.

[azredliner]

no none of that hard stuff, just simple easy fun trails and i like to go mudding a bit to.

Just go with the gears. 4.56:1 or 5.29:1 (I'd choose 4.56:1 for a daily driver.)

[fenderbmxer86]

4.88s for 35s 5.29s for anything larger.