lowest lift for steering

[84toy]

I'm going to be getting rid of the push pull setup soon,I'd like to know what setup is best for bieng low.I'd like to stay at most of 3" of lift,I'll be running my old rear's up front....thank's :grin:

[KToy]

lowest lift i heard of is 3 inches with histeer.

you can stay stock and do crossover i think though.

[84toy]

What's the difference between histeer and crossover,I thought they are the same setup?

[Oatmeal]

What's the difference between histeer and crossover,I thought they are the same setup?Hysteer moves the tierod above the springs as well as a cross over draglink where as, cross over is just that, a cross over drag link and the tierods stay below the springs.........Hans

[84toy]

Hysteer moves the tierod above the springs as well as a cross over draglink where as, cross over is just that, a cross over drag link and the tierods stay below the springs.........Hans
Thank's.Who make's the kit for crossover so I can run the tie rod below?I was over at sky man and it looked like they sold both kit's but i'm not sure

[Oatmeal]

Don't know if they're still made but, here's a useful thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=368742&highlight=double+arm lots more info on Pirate if you want to search........Hans

[84toy]

Thank's for the link.I've seen the double arm setup and have thought about making it myself but switching the steering is cheap now and dont really want a booty fabbed arm.The double arm is more than buying a set of new arm's and probably not as strong.
I'll see what I can dig up over on pirate,I know i've seen a thread's of a few guy's running low lift with crossover and info how it was accomplished.......

[SASvanguy]

lowest lift i heard of is 3 inches with histeer.

you can stay stock and do crossover i think though.
Maybe this is where I start my own thread, but, similar to question I have.

How much lift before you need to go with a different steering set up, be it cross over or hy-steer?

To copy a signature, if I in theory went with 2" body, and 3" susp., would stock steering suffice til I could get the alternate steering done?

[KToy]

ya but no more than 3 or youll wish u never did it.

[snowtoy83]

my bud has about 4 to 5" of lift with stock push pull at rubs the spring a bit but it works. a body lift will not do anything to screw with it.

[fourwd1]

Maybe this is where I start my own thread, but, similar to question I have.

How much lift before you need to go with a different steering set up, be it cross over or hy-steer?

To copy a signature, if I in theory went with 2" body, and 3" susp., would stock steering suffice til I could get the alternate steering done?

Yes. 3" is fine w/stock steering. A dropped draglink would help, but some people don't even bother w/that.

With 3" or less of susp lift, hi-steer can interfere with the springs under some full stuff/droop/turn conditions.

[84toy]

I'm running a dropped drag link on my push pull,the flex I'm getting out of my suspension is really good,nothing bind's and work's just fine.The problem is turning,bieng locked in front with 37's trying to turn the wheel on hard surface's like in moab just plain SUCK'S.I'm afraid one day i'm going to snap the horseshoe arm,I'm suprised It hasn't yet.
I've thought about running a push pull setup from an old ford that had the hydro assist,mounting the box as far forward as possible with a longer DL and beefing up the horseshoe arm......I figure that's a stupid Idea also.

[Oatmeal]

If you decide to stay with the push-pull steering set up I wouldn't remove the torque arm to gain flex because 1) it prevents brake steer and 2) it limits the down travel on the driver's side and could help prevent breaking the J arm........although, it will eventually if you wheel it hard enough.........Hans